Trading card style unit cards for offline use

[Krusader]

Hehe...

Why do I start thinking about Europa Barbarorum CCG...

Nice job Arkatreides

[Kugutsu]

Love the new version of the cards! I can see myself printing them all off and using them as a reference when I am in battle, so I can make better strategic decisions. I was interested to see the stats for peltastai, I always considered them as little better than akontistai, but it appears they are much better...

BTW you have missed the 'B' in 'better armed' for the Argyraspidai.

[Obelics]

at this point i think it should be nice to have a comparative tabula of (for example) skirmishers:

Roman Leves, Velites, Akontistai, Peltasts, numidian javelimen etc

it could be divided in various theme collections, "the skirmishers collection cards", "the phalanx collection", "the cavalry collection", a "General's bodyguards golden collection" etc.

[Arkatreides]

Done most of the 'core' Macedonian unit cards now (see first post)

Found some interesting stats in the process. I am not sure everything is how it should be but that's what the EDU says.

[Maeran]

at this point i think it should be nice to have a comparative tabula of (for example) skirmishers:

Roman Leves, Velites, Akontistai, Peltasts, numidian javelimen etc

it could be divided in various theme collections, "the skirmishers collection cards", "the phalanx collection", "the cavalry collection", a "General's bodyguards golden collection" etc.

Sensible. My crib notes are arranged by troop type. After all, I want to know which of the subject peoples of my Empire would make the best _______.

[Imperator]

wow- this is a great idea! Keep up the good work, imagine the day when you can open up a flip-book and see stats of any unit!

[Obelics]

or they could be put in a EB website too, id like it.

[Arkatreides]

I have come up against a small (possible) issue.

There currently are the following settings for spear units

-standard (no modifier in 'stat_xxx_attr')

-with the 'spear' modifier

-with the 'spear' and 'long_pike' modifier

The way I have done it now is that standard spearmen just have the 'Spear' label in their attack stats.

Units with the 'spear' modifier (e.g. the hoplites) have a 'Long Spear' label underneath Spear.

Units with the 'long_pike' modifier (e.g. the phalanx) units have the 'Pike' label in their attack stats. I believe 'long_pike' only occurs if the unit also has the 'phalanx' trait.

However, I just come across some units that are phalanx but only have the 'spear' modifier in 'stat_xxx_attr'. Now ... should these be labelled as Pike units (like the other phalanx units - in which case how do I identify the 'long_pike' ones) OR should they be labelled Spear units with the Long Spear identifier underneath (like the hoplites) plus the phalanx identifier?

Or is there another good way of doing it?

[Swebozbozboz]

Sweboz! They have some pretty interesting units.

[Obelics]

i think you could keep the "phalanx" tag for units that have the phalanx formation ability, and add a "very long spears" tag for units that have the ability, for other units i think there is no need for a tag. Me too think that very long spears only occurs on phalanx abilited units.

I think that "very long spears" could be a sort of icon like that of the stamina and long grass.

But what about "very good stamina units? (very hardy)" I think it should be nice to have 2 hearts for them...

[Arkatreides]

i think you could keep the "phalanx" tag for units that have the phalanx formation ability, and add a "very long spears" tag for units that have the ability, for other units i think there is no need for a tag. Me too think that very long spears only occurs on phalanx abilited units.

I think that "very long spears" could be a sort of icon like that of the stamina and long grass.

Hmm, I will look into this. I just did a quick check in the EDU and long_pike can only coexist with the phalanx ability so that is not a problem, maybe the terms spear phalanx and pike phalanx will do the trick.

But what about "very good stamina units? (very hardy)" I think it should be nice to have 2 hearts for them...

Yes, either that or a differently coloured heart. Similarly for more than 1 hit point I probably also need some sort of icon ... running out of hearts soon here ...

[Kull]

Three things:

1) Absolutely gorgeous work! Love 'em!

2) I've been blowing off working on typos and grammar stuff while working the "larger issues", and now it comes back to haunt me. Gah.

3) There was a major EDU stat upgrade in the Hotfix - so you might want to hold off statting new cards for the next few hours.

[Arkatreides]

Three things:

1) Absolutely gorgeous work! Love 'em!

2) I've been blowing off working on typos and grammar stuff while working the "larger issues", and now it comes back to haunt me. Gah.

3) There was a major EDU stat upgrade in the Hotfix - so you might want to hold off statting new cards for the next few hours.

1) Cheers for the thumbsup!

2) See it as a way of 'improving' it

3) Back to the drawing board then! You know I won't rest until all of yesterday's cards are fixed

[Yun Dog]

I love these - great work

[Arkatreides]

Here are some Aedui units




and some Ptolemaic units



Again, some stats look a bit wonkey ... in particular Klerouchikoi Phalangitai looks underpowered compared to the Pezhetairoi

[Orb]

Do the iaosatae really have two bullets?

[ElectricEel]

Their range is also listed as lower than that of the javelins chucked by the Milnaht.

[Arkatreides]

Do the iaosatae really have two bullets?

The copy&paste monster has struck again, methinks - indeed this is wrong

Here are some Carthaginian units while I fix that:



BTW: I am looking for the graphics to carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_leebi_feenikim_meshoorianim ; Dorkim Leebi-Ponnim Mesoorianim - anyone know where that is ... it's not in the Egypt folder but it also does not display as a peasant in game so I am a bit confused about where to find it.

[Arkatreides]

A whole series of cards have been added, check the first post for current and future updates.

[pansoiatr]

Excellent,wonderful job.The moment i discovered your thread i put it in my bookmarks.It is too precious to lose it.
While playing eb i have a notebook with the units of epeirus and bactria,the two units i currently play but this is something else!
Thank you

[mAIOR]

I had no Idea so many units were unrecruitable. Is there any way or any sub-mod to implement them? cause I'd love to play with the Goidilic shock infantry...

Cheers...

[Arkatreides]

There is no 'easy' way to make them recruitable, but if you feel brave you can try editing the EDB (just make sure you make a copy first!).

Basically look for the unit you want, copy all those lines and paste them into the previous MIC (which is above it in the EDB). That way they will be recruitable for gov type 2.

I will mention this to the team, as it looks like a mistake.

[Arkatreides]

Getai have also been updated ...

[Arkatreides]

And here are all the steppe units:



The 'N' refers to Nomadic MICs (Camps) and the 'P' to Pastoral MICs (Settlements) . Units with orange dots are noble cavalry from the Elite Herds (Hers and Courts) and can be recruited under both nomadism or pastoralism.

Check this image for a more detailed explanation of what the different MICs mean:
https://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nomad7fp.jpg

[mAIOR]

I found a mistake. Lusotanan light spearmen appear with sword as their secondary weapon.


Cheers...

[Mister V]

Do my eyes deceive me?? The Praetorians have an armour value of 10 (TEN)?! And the Antesignani, despite having "light" in the description, have an armour rating of 14?!?
This is madness! (ok, ok, j/k, but it's completely illogical, I think there's been a typo in the mod itself, Praetorians should be better than the Marian Evocata, not worse than them! I've changed the armour values for my game...).

[abou]

Don't let the term 'light' fool you for the Antesignani. Their an elite unit and are practically gods on the battlefield. If it makes you feel better, the man per unit number is less that the Praetorians. I know you're probably thinking, "But the Praetorians are the Praetorians", and yes, they are, but they were never really deployed in battle consistently.

As for the Evocata, don't let individual values fool you. We have fudged armor and skill for our own purposes. The Praetorians do have a higher attack though.

[-Praetor-]

This is madness!

[Obelics]

great work as always arkatreide!

just a question, why there is not the pahlava faction symbol on the daha rog baexdzynt aefsad (skirmish cavalry) and the daha baexdzyntae (daha riders)?

keep it up!

EDIT:
im not sure in 0.81, but in 0.72/74 im sure i was able, as pahlava, to recruit the skuda fat aexdzintae, building a nomadic building in gava-alanna and in gava-saka at last, if i well remember.

Sorry if i havent understand somethink, could be the faction symbol only appear for the proper factional units...

[Arkatreides]

great work as always arkatreide!

just a question, why there is not the pahlava faction symbol on the daha rog baexdzynt aefsad (skirmish cavalry) and the daha baexdzyntae (daha riders)?

Yes, they should have the icon. The Pahlava are unique in that they are partially nomad and partially settled, and where they share nomadic units they have a different MIC structure. The easiest would be to add the Pahlava icon to the steppe cards. Alternatively I could make own Eastern cards for Pahlava.

But either way it is a minor issue right now. Maybe after the next release I will come up with something more consistent.