Milan/HRE Headache--Need Cure!!!!

[Indy1958]

Dear Fellow Warriors:

Good afternoon from Canada!!! I hope this finds you and yours well.

Is there a kindly soul out there who can help me with my Milan/HRE problem? Last night was a nightmare!!! Before I go into this, I wish to make an advance apology to those who are of German blood.

Okay, now that's out of the way, here's what happened: The Milanese and Kraut armies are all over France like the proverbial cheap suit. I used my assassin to send one of the German generals to meet his Maker. They're still coming at me, mainly around the town of Dijon. Neither country will accept a ceasefire proposal from me. His Hatness got on my butt and told me to gain a ceasefire from Milan before any more Christian blood is spilled. One can't really gain anything if the other side isn't willing to listen. I was about ready to throttle the Kraut negotiator when he arrogantly, "You have come asking the Kaiser's forgiveness?" When I asked for a ceasefire, he turned me down flatter than a pancake.

To me, there's a difference between quite aggressive and going overboard. Milan, not to mention the HRE, have overshot "quite aggressive" and have headed into "going overboard."

Is there a way to prevent this in future games as France?

Live long and prosper, take care and thank you kindly!!!

Sincerely yours always,

Indy.

[SultanSaladin]

I think that Milan is programmed to attack Dijon sooner or later .. there is no escape from that .. at least in all of my campaigns they have done that ..

[HoreTore]

Yup. Milan ALWAYS goes for Bern and Dijon, while HRE likes going west of Metz. You can easily turn the HRE away by causing trouble on the east, however.

Only solution I see regarding Milan, is to attack them...

If the pope threathens, just defend for 7 turns, then resume your attacks.

Aggressive action = attacking stacks on enemy province, naval battles and sieging a settlement. It does not include attacking someone on your lands, nor camping your army on his land(and defending there).

[TevashSzat]

Do what Horetore says. There really isn't much you can do about aggressive Milan unless you drastically change playing style and have a marriage alliance, be more powerful than them, have large patrolling armies, and give them tribute every turn. Even then they still might attack you out of spite

[vonsch]

While you are on best behavior with Milan, you also have a free hand with HRE. Take a city behind the lines and see if they will take it back for a cease fire. Then the turns will be up and you can make Milan pay.

On the other hand, that's all out of character for the French.

Enough obligatory French-bashing...

[Budwise]

Its funny how everyone is having an HRE/Milan Problem, so am I. After being attacked by HRE and I am Denmark, I completely annialated HRE as terms of being a power at all and left them rot in a few hard to get right now areas. Well, Milan broke my alliance with them too and attacked me. So, I just am getting out of one war and into another. Although no Ceasefire has been declared, the HRE really can't hurt me much right now due to all the sabotage and executions of prisoners so let them rot. Oh, the pope really doesn't like them because England and I take turns being Pope and we are great Allies at this time. I took care of Scotland for them earlier.