How does one get the Knights guilds?

**Suraknar** · 03-06-2007, 05:06

I only recently started a campaign, my question is general in relation to the Topic about Knighthood Guilds, I have hoped that this time around the Byzantines would get at least the Order of St-John aswell aka Knights Hospitalier as Historically the Order did have both Catholic and Orthodox Chapters.

**Whacker** · 03-06-2007, 05:10

I dunno what else I can add to this guys. I know for a fact I was offered the St. John's chapterhouse twice in my last english campaign, and I only crusaded once, which was well after I got the chapterhouses. This is England, so it's not like I'm near muslim or very heavy pagan neighbors and I wasn't at war with any muslims. I obviously can't recruit St John's knights until I got the chapterhouses. The only thing I did was I kept churning out unit after unit of mounted feudal knights from the two castles I was offered the guilds in... /shrug

**Suraknar** · 03-06-2007, 05:12

Is it possible it has to do something with Chivalry rating combined with Piety?

**Whacker** · 03-06-2007, 05:20

Doubtful, my generals all spent most of that campaign on a boat until I had a solid beachhead in France and there weren't any inquisitors past the Alps. By the time I landed them, they spent most of the time in the countryside campaigning and leading stacks. Not a very pious or chivalric bunch to be sure.