Command Stars

**vonsch** · 03-15-2007, 00:21

Originally Posted by Carl

@Orda: I just checked the File and their NOTHING in their that is triggered by using up all your movment, In fact the only movment related triggers i could find equired you to have all your points remaning. In addittion theirs only a coupld of traits that could lose you more than one command even with the anti-traits bug.

Without a lost battle your limiting yourself to being stuck in a settelment and having a brothel or above in their, and even then it's an incredibbly low chance of losing 6 command in that many turns.

Of couse I cold have missed a trigger, if I have could you tell me what it is if you know please?

p.s. i'm not saying your lying, i just don't understand how you could lose so many points so quickly out in the open feild.

Logistics skill requires you to use 90% of your MPs. There are a couple of others too, I think. So there are some triggers.

But all I can think is a random trigger one that drops command triggered the anti-trait bug somehow.

**Orda Khan** · 03-16-2007, 12:19

I don't really care too much about command ratings, it is no more difficult to win a battle with a lowly captain than it is a 10 star general. However, I fail to see the point command stars if there are so many stupid reasons for them to disappear.
The general I quoted was used to fight deep into enemy territory where his role was to cause as much disruption as possible. He would receive no support. By the time he reached Antwerp he was a 'Saint' with 10 stars. For around 3 or 4 turns he remained in that region, waiting for a ship to cross over into Britain. His command has fallen to 4 stars and the dread count has fallen to 2 as well. I can't explain that, to me its nonsense but I am at the point with this game that I am past caring anymore

........Orda

**Carl** · 03-16-2007, 13:31

Question Orda Khan: Where you using Hot-seat Campaign mode, (for example to play as your fav faction the Mongols), I know your probably aware of it, but if you get attacked by the AI in their turn the battle will auto-resolve so you could lose command stars that way as you'd never even get a notification of the battle being fought.

As I say, i'm not trying to say your lying, (or stupid), it's just I couldn't find any triggers that would cause the effects you describe so i'm trying to figure out what else could have happened that you didn't notice. I mean as long as you moved all the time yo where in enemy territory you shouldn't have picked up bad traits, (you can for being in enemy territory and not moving though).

**Orda Khan** · 03-16-2007, 16:20

No Carl, no hot seat

.......Orda

**Callahan9119** · 03-16-2007, 16:52

hmm i know when i have a 9 or 10 star he is no captain, makes a big difference

but i pick up bad traits sometimes...

**Orda Khan** · 03-17-2007, 11:56

All I meant was that against the AI it is easy to win with a captain, so having a ten star general reduced to four is no great loss, it's the reasons behind this that do not make sense

......Orda

**econ21** · 03-17-2007, 12:03

I believe command stars only affect morale in RTW and M2TW. A CA staffer said here that they affect attack stats as well, but testing by therother apparently refutes that. Like Orda I personally have not noticed a big effect of command stars in those games.

In MTW (and I believe STW), command stars did affect attack (and defence?) stats so an 8-star general could turn weak troops into monsters and be very hard to beat. I found command stars had an enormous effect in MTW, with a high command AI general's force often being able to roll straight over your zero command armies.

**Memnoch** · 03-19-2007, 10:25

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

I don't really care too much about command ratings, it is no more difficult to win a battle with a lowly captain than it is a 10 star general. However, I fail to see the point command stars if there are so many stupid reasons for them to disappear.
The general I quoted was used to fight deep into enemy territory where his role was to cause as much disruption as possible. He would receive no support. By the time he reached Antwerp he was a 'Saint' with 10 stars. For around 3 or 4 turns he remained in that region, waiting for a ship to cross over into Britain. His command has fallen to 4 stars and the dread count has fallen to 2 as well. I can't explain that, to me its nonsense but I am at the point with this game that I am past caring anymore

........Orda

This was something I've been curious about - when you are controlling an army, do your general's command stars actually make a difference in battle?

**econ21** · 03-19-2007, 11:47

Originally Posted by Memnoch

This was something I've been curious about - when you are controlling an army, do your general's command stars actually make a difference in battle?

I believe it raises morale only. I would guess +1 morale/command star, but I am not sure. There probably is an additional effect on morale for proximity to the general, but that might be independent of the command rating.

**Orda Khan** · 03-19-2007, 13:07

Here are the list of traits for my general who has gone from Champion to Merciless to Saint and is now the Lewd.
enjoys a wager
lacks justice
tactically sound
mighty warlord
talent for command
night fighter
saint of battle
merciless conquerer
strong attacker
inspirational speaker
survivor
womaniser
feels honoured
good with cavalry
strong defender
severe
shamelessly lewd
He just picked up the lewd trait while laying siege to Edinburgh. Currently 5 command, 2 dread. Was 10 command, 5 dread.

His brother who has just taken Caernarfon.....
wildly extravagant
mixed loyalties
unjust
no nonsense
harsh ruler
everyones friend
religiously proper
eastern warlord
winning first
dangerous with cavalry
feels appreciated
quite merciless
confident defender
aspiring commander
night fighter
Was 10 command, 10 dread. After taking the city he is now 5 command, 10 dread. So he has lost half his command rating for taking a city

My faction's best general.....
intelligent
religiously minded
everyones friend
promising strategist
mighty warlord
natural commander
night fighter
winning first
lacks compassion
strong language
underhanded
trouble at home
aspiring commander
healthy caution
famous racer
can tell a tale
feels appreciated
no nonsense
austere
10 command, 5 dread and he has been in Acre since he took it many turns back

........Orda

**Foz** · 03-19-2007, 17:02

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

Here are the list of traits for my general who has gone from Champion to Merciless to Saint and is now the Lewd.
enjoys a wager
lacks justice
tactically sound
mighty warlord
talent for command
night fighter
saint of battle
merciless conquerer
strong attacker
inspirational speaker
survivor
womaniser
feels honoured
good with cavalry
strong defender
severe
shamelessly lewd
He just picked up the lewd trait while laying siege to Edinburgh. Currently 5 command, 2 dread. Was 10 command, 5 dread.

He's entirely missing the GoodCommander line that you get from winning battles. He probably had 5th level of it, good for +5 command. As for the next guy, might be a similar deal at least partly - if he's been doing a good amount of conquering, it seems likely he should have more than +2 from GoodCommander.