Narnia Unit List

[Ossie The Great]

Narnia Unit List
Here is a place you can say idea's for units for any factions

Here is some so far

Telmar Good Infrantry and Calvary But Very Disorganised Before The Marian Reforms

Pre-Marian
Hunters
Raiders
Mounted Raiders
Spearmen
Heavy Spearmen
Archers
Chieftain’s Guard
Axe Warriors

Post-Marian
Telmar Swordsmen
Telmar Spearmen
Telmar House Guard
Armored Halberdiers
King’s Axemen
Heavy Lancers
Telmar Militia
Armored Chariots

Harfang : Exellent Infantry , But has no Calvary

Ettins
Hunting Packs
Ettin Guards
Rock Hurlers
Mammoth Riders

Archland : Good Infantry Yet Lack Calvary

Noble Infanty
Archland Pikemen
Light Calvary
Hired Ettins
Mountaineers
Kings Mounted Guards
Halberdiers
Panther
Foot Knights
Archland Infantry
Archers

Royal Narnia : Good All Round team all though Lack Heavy Calvary

Centaur Skirmishers
Fawns
Red Dwarfen Axemen
Centaurs
Leopords
Satyrs
Cheetahs
Friendly Ettins
Centaur archers
Marshwiggle Archers



Imperial Narnia : Good Selction Of Infantry and Calvary all though lack Missile Units

Minataurs
Wolves
Jadis Polar bear drwan chariots
ogre's
Black Dwarf Infantry
Hags
Tigers
black dwarfen archers
Ettins
Elite Minotaurs
Barbarian


Calormene : An All Round Exellent Faction all though lack Missle Troops

Calormene Swordsmen
Calormene War Chariots
Noble Calvary
Elite Calormene Infantry
Calormene Medium Cavalry
Halberdiers
Knights of the Royal Household (Bodyguard)
Desert cavalry
Royal swordsmen
Skirsmers
Archers


Desert Tribesmen: Lack Any Heavy Infantry

Desert Militia
Desert Spearmen
Tribal Warriors
Javelineers
Scimitar Infantry
Sand Men (swordsmen that can hide in the open desert)
Bowmen
Chieftain’s Bodyguard
Tribal Cavalry
Mounted Javelineers
Mounted Bowmen



Rebels:

Dragons
Rebel Centaurs

Merc:

Red Dwarfen Archers
Black Dwarfen Axe men
Gnomes

Maybe:

Talking Mice
Calormene Priests
Minoboars
Tree Men

88 Units out of a possible 255

P.S A few more units are likely to get added

[Ossie The Great]

We Need Some help in units so please say any ideas .

[Roman_Man#3]

Here is my idea:

King Peter's Army :

Centaur Skirmishers-Centaurs armed with bow or javelins
Fawns- Swordsmen and Spearmen
Red Dwarf Axemen- Dwarves armed with axex.
Heavy Centaurs- Centaurs armed with heavy armour and large sword, presumably two handed
Red Dwarf archers- Name suggests. Dwarves armed with sword and Bow
Leopards- Medium type cavalry
Cheetah- Light type cavalry.
Friendly Giants-I dunno
Satyrs
General- Narnian General is on horse, while his bodyguard is heavy centaurs with 2 handed sword or 2 long swords.


Queen Jadis' army :

Minatours
Secret Police-Wolves
black dwarf axemen
Jadis' Polar bear drawn chariots- Generals unit
Ogre- Giant beasts
Gargoyles- Dunno how we would put this in.
Black Dwarf Archers- Archers with swords and bows
Minoboars- dunno
Pig Men- monstrocities
Hags
Bengal Tigers

[caravel]

I would avoid "Minoboars" they are a nonsense creatures created for the movies and video games and were not in the books - besides it's an entirely stupid name.

Ogres didn't appear in any of the Narnia books, I think they're something that has been added by the movies. Ogres are in fact Orcs (Orkes in old english, Ogre is the French), they are one and the same thing. An Ogre is a legendary fiend that eats children not a Giant. An Ettin is another name for giant, specifically two or three headed ones, though I would avoid these. The best name for the Giants in the Narnia books, IMHO, is Ettins (as in Ettinsmoor). This avoids using the term Giant which can appear rather generic.

If you're going to go for Minotaurs try to make them roughly man sized to a maximum of about 7 foot tall and in normal sized units instead of the huge elephant sized beasts I was suggesting earlier. Thinking about it these would be better, more practical and much more useful. They could wield large two handed axes and have very good morale but no discipline whatsoever.

The Ettins could be the large beasts (elephant sized) instead of the Minotaurs. They would be very resilient and would perhaps run amok quite often. In fact if it were possible I would have these as a war dog type unit with handlers (a group of black dwarves) that is released on the enemy and then left to it. Such beasts as Ettins would be far too stupid to follow orders, move in formation or attack selectively.

The Ettins of Harfang would be better equipped, intelligent, and "civilised" Ettins. These would all need to be giant sized units also. Another possible unit type for them would be normal sized hunting dogs (as per The Silver Chair). The handers would need to be Ettins of course, and after releasing their dogs could go and fight also (if this would work correctly). To be specific Harfang would have no non Ettin units, and their only mercenaries would be perhaps the dumb Ettins of the Ettinsmoor.

In the Silver Chair the Giants near the ravine just to the south of the ettinsmoor were so idiotic that their attention could be distracted easily and if the travellers didn't do anything unexpected they would pass through unnoticed and unmolested.

I hadn't thought about Centaurs armed with Javelins, but that would make a lot of sense. I would avoid the heavy centaurs like the plague. They would be very wrong. Centaurs would never use armour, or heavy weapons, and would look ridiculous in it to be honest. As I've said before, the main punch of the Centaur should be it's morale, stamina and speed. The charge should be devastating but the armour non-existent. Centaurs would need to weaken the enemy from a distance with their bows and javelins, then charge into the fray to break the enemy and rout them.

The Narnians as a faction should be very short of armoured line infantry units, for this they they should have to rely on the Red Dwarven mercenaries.

Fauns I wouldn't include. There is never any mention of Fauns doing battle, as they are very small and non warlike creatures, like foxes rabbits, or beavers. Satyrs, in the Narnia books, are the larger type of Faun. The Satyrs would be the Slingers and have decent melee stats also.

"Bengal" is in India so it would be better to call them simply "Tigers". I cannot remember which big cats were mentioned in the books. I believe Leopards were mentioned as was a Lion (not Aslan), but I don't remember any mention of Tigers, Panthers, Pumas, Jaguars, Cheetahs etc. I would think that one type of big cat would be enough.

For the Dwarves I would give the red dwarves axes and less armour. They would be poorer and much less miltiaristic, but their morale and discipline should be better. For the Black dwarves I would give them swords and better armour, reflecting the fact that they serve the empire and that Jadis is equipping them with better arms. The dwarves could also have a warcry.

I will update this as I think of anything more to add.

[Ossie The Great]

Hi
Thanks for the ideas ( please keep them coming )

I am going to start a unit list for Archland and Colormen so any help with that would be great

[caravel]

I definitely like the idea of the wolves. These should be quite elite, very fast and in small units, with a bonus hiding in woods and a warcy (howl).

Hags, instead of screaming like the screaming women, could utilise the chant of the RTW druids to encourage friendly units. There could be another type of hag that uses the scream, a lesser type. Perhaps Hags and "Arch Hags" or something similar.

[Jubal_Barca]

Units and ideas;

Fighting Mice
- Can hide anywhere
- Get weak CC attack
- Horde formation
- Come in units of 60 or so

Dryads is an interesting one, since in the Last Batttle it describes them as being the height of a centaur, and looking like a woman. However, the attacking trees in Prince Caspian are most definitely tree height.

SO

No dryads, but fighting trees maybe?

Dwarfs; The Good narnians should be able to get Black Dwarfs as mercs, because there were good black dwarves too.

Dufflepuds; Possibly a very rare merc unit available in the Lone Islands, kind of an 'Easter Egg' unit. Don't know exactly what they'd do, though.

Fighting badgers and bears should be at least considered.

Talking Dogs should be slightly larger thaan most.

Leopards were definitely mentioned, as were lions. these should take the form of cavalry with invisible rides, because having them as handled animals would make them useless for precise flanking attacks such as the one on The Horse And His Boy.

Talkiing horses + stags a unit possibility.

There were definitely Dragons in narnia, perhaps a rebel unit of 6 or so that spawns from time to time (and is very hard to kill)

Giants should be made and statted so you get units of 6, and that that is enough for a decent army.

Minotaurs should be berserk.

Gnomes as a relatively rare merc unit in the north, they have 3 pronged tridents but no armour as described int the silver chair.

[Jubal_Barca]

Calormene possible unit list

Swordsmen
Good morale and discipline, well armed with scimitars and reasonable armour.
Spearmen
The above with spears, should have phalanx available.
Calormene Cavalry
Light desert cavalrymen, armed similary to swordsmen.
Calormene War Chariots
Chariots, should have archers in the back.
Heavy Swordsmen
Similar toabove, but better stats and can form Testudo.
Havy Cav
Barde Horses, heavy armour.

I can give book references for these if needed.

Archenlanders should have swordsmen, halberdiers, and archers.

[Ossie The Great]

Thanks , still loking for some more unit ideas though

[Jubal_Barca]

Any particular armies you need units for?

[Jubal_Barca]

Badgers would never fight as mercs, they should fight for royal narnia, as should bears (bears were in the Narnian force in The Horse and his Boy), and Talking Mice (REEPICHEEP! GO REEPICHEEP!).

Calormenes had spearmen in The last battle.

Rebel Ettins of Ettinsmoor should be there.

I still say Dufflepuds as an easter egg.

Talking horses and stags are definite ideas too.

Sorry if I'm being annoyingly persistent, don't take too much notice of me, you're doing a great job with this entire mod so far.

Also, check your pm inbox for the centaurs,

Jubal

[Ossie The Great]

Archland, Colormen and Royal Narnia our the main army's we need help with unit list

[Jubal_Barca]

Like my Calormene list this may be kind of boring but...

Archers
Swordsmen
Halberdiers
Knights
Medium Cavalry
Guard Halberdiers
Knights of the Royal Household (Bodyguard)

[Ossie The Great]

Thanks Jula_Barca.. Still loking for ideas for units though

[Leonidas The Lion]

For the royal armies of narnia we could add elite units such as Royal fawn guard and centaur guard.

[Ossie The Great]

yer.
maybe Royal centaur guards as a rebel unit

[Leonidas The Lion]

Good idea we can say they defected from the royal army.
Baybe we can for the right price bribe them to join us.

[Ossie The Great]

Good idea we can say they defected from the royal army.
Baybe we can for the right price bribe them to join us.

sorry my english is not very good i am not to sure on what you mean

[Leonidas The Lion]

I mean they betrayed the royal army of narnia but we can bribe them to join us.

[Ossie The Great]

I mean they betrayed the royal army of narnia but we can bribe them to join us.

what u mean have them as some kind of merc for Royal Narnia

[Leonidas The Lion]

something like that.
BTW i did the rhino model i deleted the two side horns and left the center one intact.
I will give you a link.
Open a new thread for the models.

[King_Numero]

An elite Narnian unit should be Knights of the Order of the Lion. Its mentioned in the book that Caspian X is apart of this order.

[Ossie The Great]

erm...... do you have a clue what they would look like

[King_Numero]

I would suspect that they would look something like mounted Knights Templar.

[Leonidas The Lion]

We could get a texture from M2TW(if anyone has it) then we could edit it to go with in the game.

[Ossie The Great]

or......... i have got permission from the crusades mod to use some of there textures and models so maybe we could get it from there

[Leonidas The Lion]

That works too if you can get your hands on the textures and models.

[Ossie The Great]

I will see what i can do but i am not sure they would look like knights for that was only in the film

[King_Numero]

Knights were in the book, they didn't just appear in the movie (Remember Caspian was in a Jousting tourney on Galma so knights did exist). Considering the time peroid that Lewis put Narnia in they had to look similar to the Knights Templar.

[Ossie The Great]

Knights were in the book, they didn't just appear in the movie (Remember Caspian was in a Jousting tourney on Galma so knights did exist). Considering the time peroid that Lewis put Narnia in they had to look similar to the Knights Templar.

Erm................................. I do not think that there will be that much ground men in the mod but the ground men that we do have will probally look a bit like knights.
But there was a lot of varity like calormene will have more of an eastern style and The telmaries and archlanders will have more of a europoen style