Grand Theft Auto IV (and R* rant)

[lars573]

I still wonder how people can sell GTA VC and SA, and the buyers are under 18.

Since there are few laws about selling a M/18 rated game to anyone under that age it's up to the store to enforce the rating or not.

[Quintus Of Pompeii]

I would just like to say. Either you are immitating the games language or, You have a very bad mouth. If your mother saw that do you think she would be proud. Come on people. Just because we are talking about a M/18 game doesn't mean we have to violate the .Orgs rules does. Calm it down a bit.
For example "Look at GTA: SA PC... it really is a piece o' ****" and "Look at those Liberty City stories and the other one: I was thinking "What the ****???!?" They still reusing that old stuff like cheap bastards?"

-Q

[The Foolish Horseman]

Lets just say something here:

GTA SA is so easy to buy when you are under 18. Im in town right now, and i have already seen tow ten year olds with no parents present buy GTA


Thats is weird

[econ21]

Dumb question - but what are GTA games like? I play mainly strategy games and RPGs, so it is not clear they would appeal to me. But I've enjoyed Max Payne 2 and Mafia a lot - are there any simularities? I'd be looking for a game with a good story, characters and some fun combat. Stealing cars and running over innocents etc has no appeal in and of itself.

If I were to try one, which one should it be? (PC only).

[edyzmedieval]

Dumb question - but what are GTA games like? I play mainly strategy games and RPGs, so it is not clear they would appeal to me. But I've enjoyed Max Payne 2 and Mafia a lot - are there any simularities? I'd be looking for a game with a good story, characters and some fun combat. Stealing cars and running over innocents etc has no appeal in and of itself.

If I were to try one, which one should it be? (PC only).

Mafia and Max Payne are different from GTA, IMHO.

GTA is just about drugs, black people, prostitutes, shooting in the middle of the town ( I loved in Vice City taking the tank and starting to destroy everything possible. ), blood, gangsters... It depends if you like it. I like it, because it's very comprehensive, and it takes some time to complete it. But after I complete it, I throw it away.

It's much violence. Do I have to mention that every 5 seconds you here the F word?

[doc_bean]

Dumb question - but what are GTA games like? I play mainly strategy games and RPGs, so it is not clear they would appeal to me. But I've enjoyed Max Payne 2 and Mafia a lot - are there any simularities? I'd be looking for a game with a good story, characters and some fun combat. Stealing cars and running over innocents etc has no appeal in and of itself.

If I were to try one, which one should it be? (PC only).

I didn't think I would like GTA games, but two years ago i bought Vice City on a whim and found it surprisingly entertaining. The missions feel very old skool, like a level you have to beat, some can be frustrating (flying sucketh) most are pretty entertaining. Driving around the city is pretty fun, especially because VC has an awesome soundtrack which you can listen too (and hilarious talk show radio).

The game is about crime, but you don't feel very criminal imo, stealing a car is just a matter of pressing a button, shooting and killing isn't nearly as gruesome as with some fps games. Mostly, I'd consider it a driving game, but with loads of freedom.

You really should try it, Vice City is dirt cheap these days.

EDIT: I never did finish the game though, not even the main 'quest', but I played it for many hours, so i definately feel like it was worth getting.

[Bob the Insane]

EDIT: I never did finish the game though, not even the main 'quest', but I played it for many hours, so i definately feel like it was worth getting.

It would not bee to much of a spoiler to say it has a great Scarface-esk ending...

[LuckyDog Trojan]

I've always enjoyed the GTA series of games - and I am looking forward to the release of their latest installment in the line later this year. Even though I'm a PC die-hard, I've only played the various GTA games on a console unit. (Probably because it has really been designed for that platform).

To go on, doc bean touches on a note-worthy point above: the ratio of PC & Console gamers. At one time, I was PC ONLY and snubbed my nose at the console systems. I used to view console units being played by 12 and thirteen year olds. Not any more. Game content & material has improved dramatically - and - the technological gap that used to be quite wide between the two platforms has been reduced considerably.

[lars573]

Dumb question - but what are GTA games like? I play mainly strategy games and RPGs, so it is not clear they would appeal to me. But I've enjoyed Max Payne 2 and Mafia a lot - are there any simularities? I'd be looking for a game with a good story, characters and some fun combat. Stealing cars and running over innocents etc has no appeal in and of itself.

If I were to try one, which one should it be? (PC only).

Either of the two GTA III spin-offs (Vice City and San Andreas) are good. Vice City is based on Miami in the 80's. Pastel shirts and vapid me generation, Scarface, and Miami vice jokes (very dark humor though). San Andreas is a mix of California and Nevada in the early 90's. Both have good stories. And a wide variety of missions. San Andreas has some RPG-esque elements for the main character CJ. He needs to eat. He can get fat, he can build muscle, and he can level up his stats in driving, running, swimming, etc.

[edyzmedieval]

I like SA because it's a mix of RPG, in depth game, cars and missions to accomplish.

Anyone tried the Hot Coffee mod?

[Adrian II]

San Andreas is a mix of California and Nevada in the early 90's. Both have good stories. And a wide variety of missions. San Andreas has some RPG-esque elements for the main character CJ. He needs to eat. He can get fat, he can build muscle, and he can level up his stats in driving, running, swimming, etc.

Yeah, I really love that game (EU PC version). It even has some RTS aspects in that you can create gangs and use them tactically to conquer territory.

If it weren't for moral scares and legal pressure from Brussels, GTA would be rated 12+ in my country. My kids (10 and 12) aren't the least impressed, since they play the game (like all other games they play) under my benevolent supervision. I know what games are all about and I teach them to regard games as 'magic circles' where reality is suspended, even though they refer to reality for depth and context. So they understand that GTA SA is a spoof of a spoof of black gang culture, and as such it is very educational; they realize that in an area where everything is throw-away - morals, food, cars - life itself becomes a throw-away.

Oh, and they love to pick up the dildo in the police showers and use it as a truncheon..

[Caius]

Holy necromancy thread Batman, I remember this thread!

[Mikeus Caesar]

Yeah, I really love that game (EU PC version). It even has some RTS aspects in that you can create gangs and use them tactically to conquer territory.

If it weren't for moral scares and legal pressure from Brussels, GTA would be rated 12+ in my country. My kids (10 and 12) aren't the least impressed, since they play the game (like all other games they play) under my benevolent supervision. I know what games are all about and I teach them to regard games as 'magic circles' where reality is suspended, even though they refer to reality for depth and context. So they understand that GTA SA is a spoof of a spoof of black gang culture, and as such it is very educational; they realize that in an area where everything is throw-away - morals, food, cars - life itself becomes a throw-away.

Oh, and they love to pick up the dildo in the police showers and use it as a truncheon..

You sound like an awesome father. The world needs more people like you.

[Bijo]

I would just like to say. Either you are immitating the games language or, You have a very bad mouth. If your mother saw that do you think she would be proud. Come on people. Just because we are talking about a M/18 game doesn't mean we have to violate the .Orgs rules does. Calm it down a bit.
For example "Look at GTA: SA PC... it really is a piece o' ****" and "Look at those Liberty City stories and the other one: I was thinking "What the ****???!?" They still reusing that old stuff like cheap bastards?"

-Q

Bah. The thread title described a rant, and it's obvious a rant can contain certain language. As far as I know, rules aren't broken. That example you put breaks no rules either, otherwise I would've already been warned by a mod when the thread was made, so the first post is in order. Your opinions and assumptions etc. - in that quote - are entirely subjective, personal, and understandable (and I'd even say irrelevant and illogical :P but let's not make it worse)


econ, I've heard there are similarities in gameplay regarding GTA and Mafia, but I'm not too sure. If you're gonna play a GTA game, I'd recommend Vice City, for it has great atmosphere, acting, presentation, and such. Stealing cars and running over people is just one of the many side things you might choose to do if you're bored or need to let off some steam or whatever. There's always the main story (missions) to be followed (wherein you'll probably need to steal cars once in a while anyway, and where you'd accidentally run over pedestrians when in a hurry, etc.).

-edit-
Forgot to answer your main question:
GTA is mainly about crime, and lots of things that you can do. Apart from missions and the story, you can go look around and buy safehouses, change your clothes, "change from" vehicles, make money on the side, run around and beat people up, or be beaten up yourself. Side missions include delivering pizzas for instance to make some more money, etc. GTA series are always big games with big game worlds, becoming bigger with every new one, and there's always loads of stuff to do.
Go for Vice City for a good experience, or go for San Andreas which is imo not so great, though still enjoyable if you look past the flaws (if you notice them in the first place).