What we'd all like to do to lawyers.

EA please take note.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6442747.stm

Actually in situations like this, I actually begin to appreciate what debate and law brings above stones and anarchy.

Mind you if it wasn't for the wider social consequences... it would be great to be in the riot squad.

'No it is just that you are unlucky that my baton is hitting you on the head, again and again as there is no way I can predict where it goes next, oops sorry for the Liverpool kiss, please come again.'

Lawyers, lawyers, lawyers, a job created so the people do not have to waste their breath.

A lawyer is cool as long as the lawyer represents me. Otherwise, GAH!

Indeed, beating up lawyers daring to protest for human rights and a transparent system of government...

But then again, lets all jump on the "we hate lawyers bandwagon", never minding that they actually serve a valid purpose.

What are you guys talking about? Lawyers rioting = awesome! Go Pakistani lawyers! Black Suit for Freedom!

*is strangely reminded of Fragony's link to...certain google ratings...some time ago. It might from some inexplicable relation has something to do with it.*

Originally Posted by Productivity

But then again, lets all jump on the "we hate lawyers bandwagon", never minding that they actually serve a valid purpose.

Okay. I just think it is the working class and middle class having a laugh at the highly educated for once. Poetic justice, yes?
We, those who have never been to a college/university, are generally the financial fodder for lawyers.

Originally Posted by IrishArmenian

Okay. I just think it is the working class and middle class having a laugh at the highly educated for once. Poetic justice, yes?
We, those who have never been to a college/university, are generally the financial fodder for lawyers.

Everyone is the financial fodder of lawyers.

Well, actually my Parents both grew up poor, yet I'm in Uni, studying law, more a case of determination and firm belief in what's right than the silver spoon.
Same with most of the faculty.

EA please take note.

As we sing in Gillingham, "Come and have a go, if you think you're hard enough"

Okay. I just think it is the working class and middle class having a laugh at the highly educated for once. Poetic justice, yes?

My dad drives a coach, my granddad was a dockyard worker, is it OK if I am a lawyer please?

Rioting lawyers are teh bomb though. I especially liked the baldie chucking the brick at the filth*. You'd never get away with that in London.


*no offence intended to any members of the law enforcement community

Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar

Well, actually my Parents both grew up poor, yet I'm in Uni, studying law,
Same with most of the faculty.

Ah, but law has always been an emancipatory study. Jews in the nineteenth century, middle and lower classes in the twentieth, women in the seventies and eighties, ethnic minorities nowadays. Law faculties everywhere are full of the talented and unpriviliged, much more so than any other faculty.

There must be sociological and psychological links between this and the behaviour of those practicing law. I'd be interested in reading more about this.

I have seen how law students not only imitate, but in their ambitious eagerness, outdo, the vested classes in the language, tastes, clothes, manners. They're so good at it, so hungry for it, that eventually you can only tell the difference between them and older classes by their inability to relax in the exercise of these social norms at appropriate times.


Edit: My dad drives a coach, my granddad was a dockyard worker

I'm not surprised at this.

Originally Posted by luigi VI di Fatlington

Ah, but law has always been an emancipatory study. Jews in the nineteenth century, middle and lower classes in the twentieth, women in the seventies and eighties, ethnic minorities nowadays. Law faculties everywhere are full of the talented and unpriviliged, much more so than any other faculty.

There must be sociological and psychological links between this and the behaviour of those practicing law. I'd be interested in reading more about this.

I have seen how law students not only imitate, but in their ambitious eagerness, outdo, the vested classes in the language, tastes, clothes, manners. They're so good at it, so hungry for it, that eventually you can only tell the difference between them and older classes by their inability to relax in the exercise of these social norms at appropriate times.

Boink! Big phat sudden insight gained here, and at no cost. Luigi, it's not only because of your humour that you belong in the HoF.

That must be the best dressed protest ever. Somehow it has more impact than a bunch of scabbies kicking in MacDonald's front windows.

That brings back some memories...I'm a law student, and I participated once as a volunteer in a drill for a Riot Control unit. Activities included being escorted for 15 minutes and trying to get away during that, barricadating a street entry and pelting the blueshirts with fake bricks, and so on.
I learned that being knocked on the head does hurt

Originally Posted by Adrian II

Boink! Big phat sudden insight gained here, and at no cost. Luigi, it's not only because of your humour that you belong in the HoF.

Oh yeah, we're all rat faced parvenus, I'm amazed you haven't noticed.

Originally Posted by English assassin

I especially liked the baldie chucking the brick at the filth*. You'd never get away with that in London.

Originally Posted by English assassin

Oh yeah, we're all rat faced parvenus, I'm amazed you haven't noticed.

In the UK, it seems social class does not significantly affect the probability of a student studying law (or medicine) compared to other subjects:

http://www.iue.it/ECO/Conferences/Br...ers/Bratti.pdf

Glancing through the paper, if anything, those from the higher social classes are found to be more likely to read law and medicine (1/3 more likely comparing class I and V, other things being equal). And the author perhaps inappropriately controls for some things that are may be routes through which social class influences outcomes.

Originally Posted by English assassin

As we sing in Gillingham, "Come and have a go, if you think you're hard enough"



My dad drives a coach, my granddad was a dockyard worker, is it OK if I am a lawyer please?

Rioting lawyers are teh bomb though. I especially liked the baldie chucking the brick at the filth*. You'd never get away with that in London.


*no offence intended to any members of the law enforcement community

I am just making a joke. My brother is in fact studying law (Yes, we give him a lot of... ...for it, mostly because we envy his intelligence) and yes, the portly gentleman throwing the brick is very funny: it is actually my desktop background.
Do lawyers get preyed upon by other ones?
Have you ever represented yourself?
Assuming that you, the lawyers, work with sometimes emotional and unpredictable people, do odd situations ever occur?

My favorite was picture 6. It shows the guy, all bloody, looking as if he wants to say, "Can you believe they did this to me?" What makes it funny is that I'm pretty sure he's the same guy who was chucking bricks at the cops in pic #3.

Do lawyers get preyed upon by other ones?
Have you ever represented yourself?
Assuming that you, the lawyers, work with sometimes emotional and unpredictable people, do odd situations ever occur?

What, preyed on by other lawyers? I'd like to see the buggers try. But we have the same difficulties as anyone else getting a decent plumber, builder etc. Also its generally good advice not to identify yourself as a lawyer when you are dealing with the police. For some reason policemen tend not to like lawyers. If I do have to say what I do for a living I generally rapidly add that I don't do criminal work and I have acted for police forces on ocassion, which helps.

As for representing myself, we have a saying, "a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client." I did run a small claim for myself when a muppet delivery driver knocked me off my motorbike and his company decided they were not going to pay (they were very rude boys on the phone. Ooh, we won't pay we won't pay. Fair enough lads. Not a problem. They paid ). And I have executed a will for my mum. But both of these are really just form filling. Anything serious and I would instruct another lawyer, even if I thought I knew the answer.

My work is public sector and rarely litigation, so I am mostly shielded from the real nutters (ie the general public). We do get the ocassional person who is on a mission. They are easily recognised from the liberal use of BLOCK CAPITALS and underlining and large print and often when this gives insufficient emphasis ALL THREE AT ONCE.

Anything cced to the prime minister is also a bit of a give away.

They are only rarely dangerous, but you do wish they could find a more constructive way to use their time, like gardening.

What makes it funny is that I'm pretty sure he's the same guy who was chucking bricks at the cops in pic #3.

Brick guy looks just like an associate here. Predictably enough the picture is now on the notice board, captioned "[name] reacted badly to the suggestion that his clients should back their warranties with an indemnity"

Well, we think its funny.

My work is public sector

Bad luck.

Originally Posted by BDC

Bad luck.

Au contraire, public law is very interesting.

I don't work IN the public sector, just for it.

Originally Posted by gunslinger

My favorite was picture 6. It shows the guy, all bloody, looking as if he wants to say, "Can you believe they did this to me?" What makes it funny is that I'm pretty sure he's the same guy who was chucking bricks at the cops in pic #3.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. He threw the brick and forgot to let go I'd say. Bad luck.

Originally Posted by English assassin

Au contraire, public law is very interesting.

I don't work IN the public sector, just for it.

Ah ok. The yacht isn't too many years work away then. :)

Originally Posted by gunslinger

My favorite was picture 6. It shows the guy, all bloody, looking as if he wants to say, "Can you believe they did this to me?" What makes it funny is that I'm pretty sure he's the same guy who was chucking bricks at the cops in pic #3.

I'd agree except for the fact that he has a different tie, a different coat and he has glasses in one and not the other.

EDIT: I fail at English. At least at 1am anyway.

Originally Posted by Productivity

I'd agree except for the fact that he has a different tie. And a different coat. And he has glasses in one and not the other.

I stand corrected. I did notice the glasses beforehand, but they are easily removed. The coat looks the same to me, but the tie is definitely the giveaway. The bloody man has a polka-dot tie. The brick thrower doesn't.

Ahhh you're missing the point, a tie and is easily reversed, glasses are easily taken off as is a coat...

...I'll get mine.

What I find funny is that they are protesting in fancy suits. Psshh what noobs

Lawyers in fancy suits? Well I'll go t'ut foot of our stairs, who'da thought it!

Originally Posted by English assassin

My work is public sector and rarely litigation, so I am mostly shielded from the real nutters (ie the general public). We do get the ocassional person who is on a mission. They are easily recognised from the liberal use of BLOCK CAPITALS and underlining and large print and often when this gives insufficient emphasis ALL THREE AT ONCE.

Totally different industry, but interesting parallels. 'Non-customer facing backroom technician' ie really good at server level applications but like a Roitweller that you only wheel out to clients you wish to scare off. Essentially I only get to deal with 'Mission Critical Enterprise Servers' ie not the general public and even the clients have to go through a Service desk which then contacts us... however we also get the same set of plebs on a mission

emails that go like this:

FROM: MR SMITH CCNA MCSE MCSA MCP 'I'M GODS GIFT TO IT AND MANAGEMENT'
TO: Some Insignificant Tech Guy 'In the wrong department'
CC: UPPER MANAGEMENT 'SEE I'M TELLING THE BOSS TO MAKE SURE YOU DO IT'
SUBJECT: WHY SHOULD I FOLLOW PROCEDURE!!! 'I'M FAR TO IMPORTANT FOR THAT'
Content: How do I print documents from word?

The worst version are the ones who don't even bother doing that, the go straight to the Upper echelons to complain about something you haven't done that you haven't been told about. And marketing emails... they always are marked urgent, important when they should be marked forgetful and vacuous.
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