How does anybody get past 200BC?

**Redigo** · 03-13-2007, 03:06

I'm in a Romani campaign around 209BC after having invested probably 100 hours. I've taken North Africa, Iberia, Sicily, Greece, and southern Gaul (around 50 provinces) and I'm in a holding pattern until the Marian reforms.

Thing is, it's taking forever. By the time you get this far into a campaign, each turn takes a good hour just to polish up the basic administrative tasks like building and shuffling governors.

If anybody's worked through to 172BC manually, I'd like to know how you had the patience to do it!

**Eduorius** · 03-13-2007, 03:29

Playing historically and not trying to conquer all the map as fast as I can.

Edit to say that a lot of things happen in EB and I like every turn. What I hate is to wait for the downloads, but there cant be done too much about that.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 03-13-2007, 03:45

Play slow, don't conquer too fast. (Of course this is hard, seeing as the AI conquers fast and if you don't you die.)

Eventually you'll get all the buildings in your towns and won't have to worry about that. I usually will do administrative things once a year (spring), such as moving around governors.

I know how you feel though, I moved up the Marian Reforms and ended up getting them in 199-195ish. And the Imperial in 130ish.

**CaesarAugustus** · 03-13-2007, 06:20

Play slow, don't conquer too fast.

That is probably the best piece of advice that I could give you, too. Work your way slowly up to 45 provinces by 172 BC and leave yourself about 20 years to gradually change all of your provinces to Type II Governments. I personally stretched myself too thin going for 90 provinces and now my legions are dead and the Germans are systematically wiping out my mercenary armies. If you take it slow and develop your empire than you will find that you will be making more money, have secure borders, and you won't need to manage as many territiories. By the time the Marians take effect your Imperium will be the greatest (maybe not the largest) in the world, and you can unleash your legions on the barbarians. (kill some Sweboz for me ;)

**Xtiaan72** · 03-13-2007, 06:57

Make some house rules to make things harder and more interesting. Check out the "Carthage Challenge" thread I started if you need some ideas. I'm trying to get a bunch of players to try a Carthage ironman challenge game.

**Kralizec** · 03-13-2007, 08:03

Maybe it would be a good idea to create a thread to share savegame files?

**Fondor_Yards** · 03-13-2007, 20:00

Originally Posted by Redigo

I'm in a Romani campaign around 209BC after having invested probably 100 hours. I've taken North Africa, Iberia, Sicily, Greece, and southern Gaul (around 50 provinces) and I'm in a holding pattern until the Marian reforms.

Thing is, it's taking forever. By the time you get this far into a campaign, each turn takes a good hour just to polish up the basic administrative tasks like building and shuffling governors.

If anybody's worked through to 172BC manually, I'd like to know how you had the patience to do it!

Take the whole summer, worked for me

**Redigo** · 03-14-2007, 03:21

Well, I've set my settlements to be automanaged and am cheating my way through by forcing peace where appropriate. Also trying to contain the Sweboz and Seleukid monsters by inciting rebellion in the farther reaches of their empires and subsidizing their enemies. Having little success with the Seleukids as they've already knocked off the Ptolemies, clearing one flank, and the Baktrians keep building full-stack armies of pantodapoi -- great for depopulating your cities, but stopping argyraspidai? Not so much.

Went from 206BC to 182BC in only seven hours! (My god, I spent seven hours doing that. Talk about something I can't even begin to explain to my wife....)

**LordCurlyton** · 03-14-2007, 04:18

You have the spare time to have a wife?

Amazing!

**Digby Tatham Warter** · 03-16-2007, 10:14

Originally Posted by Redigo

Thing is, it's taking forever. By the time you get this far into a campaign, each turn takes a good hour just to polish up the basic administrative tasks like building and shuffling governors.

If anybody's worked through to 172BC manually, I'd like to know how you had the patience to do it!

1 hour for a turn is nothing, playing the SPQR mod at the height of my 2 month solid(every day) Roman campaign turns could take between 3-6 hours.

My current EB Seleukid endeaver, is becoming epic, finally got the Pltolemies on their knees(they just don't seem ready to die yet).

I think that the EB Roman Imperial reforms(fun) are just too hard to get to?