The Carthage Challenge thread!

**Pharnakes** · 03-19-2007, 16:17

Hi guys, seeing as you are all Qarthadastim fans I thought I would post this here. I have decided to try and get an E.B. PBeM campaign running and I think I will do it for the Qarthadastim. Please check my thread out, its over at the main E.B. forum (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=81540). As it says there I am up for some fairly strict house rules and I thought some of you guys might like to join in. If you would please post there or P.M. me.

**Xtiaan72** · 03-19-2007, 23:11

1. Let Romanii take Messana&Lilibeo and(?) Corsica&Sardinia (238bc/sell?) to simulate defeat in the 1st Punic War.
don`t use elite troops against Romanii this time
2. Build iberian Empire for Barcid child and win the 2nd Punic (Hannibal) war.
It will be more chellenging if romanii will have Polybian legions earlier then 210bc when Hanno will be conquering nothern italy (through alps undoubtly in 218bc).

I like these ideas

Especially the idea that the first invasion of Romani should be overland via Iberia. I think we should add that Rome itself can only be attacked after all other Rome provinces are conquered ( to simulate Carthage reluctance to siege the city)

**Krusader** · 03-20-2007, 02:03

Only thing I'll add is about unit usage (sorry if I missed).

1-2 Sacred Band units only allowed of each type. And should a unit get wiped out, wait 10 years before recruiting a new one.

Any heavily armoured Carthaginian infantry (Late Liby-Phoenicians for example) should be recruited after facing Roman troops in battle. If general who faced them survives and fights so and so many battles, the Carthaginian army could get late/more armored troops as being recruitable to simulate effect of Carthaginians reforming their armies. (although if you face Epeirote armies with heavily armored troops, maybe then too).

Assault Infantry should be made available after you have problems assaulting a city or faced assault infantry of your own. Or if you conquer some settlements by starving the garrison, you could get assault infantry in limited numbers as a means to end sieges quicker should it be needed.

**Xtiaan72** · 03-20-2007, 02:35

I will compile the best of these ideas at the top of thread in the next couple of days so we can kick off the challenge by the weekend. That still gives us a few days to revise the rules.

**Favre** · 03-20-2007, 06:07

Great, im just about to unleash 2 full stacks on Italy to finish my current a-historical qarthadast campaign. I should be able to go go good on the weekend then :)

**Basileus Seleukeia** · 03-20-2007, 14:35

Well, I take the challenge, too. But I think waiting 50 turns is a bit much. So you can't get big Armys while the AI has them anyways because of that insane money cheat. And perhaps we can include Numahrs Spreadsheet, if it is ready by the weekend, because it is a realistic method of limiting your progress. I don't really like these ''do nothing for xx turns'' limitations.

**Xtiaan72** · 03-22-2007, 22:43

I compiled the best of the ideas at the top of the thread. I'd like to start the challenge this weekend. Any last minute rule revisions?

**Xtiaan72** · 03-23-2007, 08:46

The Carthage Challenge has begun. Post comments or shoot the Sh*t here and post your campaign notes or AARs on the new "Charthage Challenge AAR'S" Thread

Cheers