A new Civilization game has been announced.

**Lorenzo_H** · 03-15-2007, 16:48

Originally Posted by English assassin

As i haven't got round to CIV 4 I may not be the best person to comment, but whether this is "good news" depends on (1) if they are just churning the franchise or not and (2) whether Econ21 has mastered his CIV addiction yet.

If you ask me the trouble with CIV is, we've done it. Multiple times, in fact. There is only so much "start with a settler and end up in space" you need. CIV 4 didn't seem to me to offer enough of an advance over CIV 3 to be worthwhile, and unless they can add something really NEW to CIV 5 I will feel the same way. And I mean new new, not just a few more parameters to micromanage.

My prediction: it will be the same old game with fancier graphics.

OT did anyone ever do a CIV type game (or mod for CIV) in a fantasy setting? That might be mildly diverting for a change. Suppose Civfanatics would know...

I wholly agree with this statement, though I faintly hope your prediction is wrong, though I doubt it. They should, under pain of an EA-type reputation, bring some big new features to impress. Maybe incorporate the Space Colonization SMAC type area?

**Mithradates** · 03-15-2007, 17:23

I for one believe the next civ game should be Alpah Centauri 2 i loved that game tempted to reinstall it now. For years when i switched my computer off it would say "please dont go the drones need you they look up to you" sigh fond memories.

**pevergreen** · 03-16-2007, 01:34

Warlords added new leaders and factions to the game, combat remains unchanged.

**TevashSzat** · 03-16-2007, 01:51

The civ games are coming out too fast IMO, I remember getting civilization 3 gold and then not too long after that, civ 4's release date was announced and released. Haven't even bought civ 4 now and civ 5 is coming out already.

**Midnight** · 03-16-2007, 17:54

Give me a worthy successor to SMAC and I'll be very, very happy. After Civ4 though, I'm not excited.

**Mithradates** · 03-16-2007, 18:05

I doubt it will be civ 5 more likely SMAC or another revamped older game.

**Lehesu** · 03-16-2007, 18:31

Eh, GalCiv2 + DA has quenched my previous desire for a new Alpha Centauri game.

**TinCow** · 03-16-2007, 18:45

Originally Posted by Midnight

Give me a worthy successor to SMAC and I'll be very, very happy. After Civ4 though, I'm not excited.

Really? I've played every single Civ game that Sid's put out, including SMAC, and I've found Civ4 to be far better than any of them. SMAC was indeed great, but it had many, many flaws (Infinite City Sprawl alone was so aggravating it made long games unenjoyable.) Civ4 seems to have achieve what I thought was unachievable: Great SP and great MP. Massive games that take a week or more to play, and quick games that you can finish in a couple hours. It's the swiss army knife of Strategy games!

**econ21** · 03-16-2007, 19:06

Off-topic: I agree about Civ4 being excellent. In terms of my Civ addiction, I recently learned that in the UK, heroin use has increased because of "brown heroin" which you can smoke rather than inject. To me Civ4 is the "brown civ" of the genre. Civ2 was horribly addictive, but strangely unfulfilling - so playing it was like sticking a needle into your body to get a fix. Once you had gone cold turkey, getting back into it was eminently resistable (I put it on my shelf with a label marked "poison"). By contrast, Civ4 is just as addictive as Civ2, but also rather fun. So even when you don't have "one more turn" to get through, the prospect of playing it is rather pleasant and attractive.

Fortunately, my computer keeps cutting out and threatening to melt down when I play Civ4, so my habit is under control. (Although now it has a taste of power, I fear for what my computer will do next when I get back into M2TW after the coming patch.)

On-topic: too soon for a Civ4, but I'd be interested in what other Civ product is produced.

Thinking about how they could improve Civ in the longer term, one thing that occurred to me - beyond hiring CA to do the battles - would be to develop the role-playing aspect. We now have great generals and interesting talking head AI rulers. Why not develop that more, to have families - dynasties - and move a little into roleplaying territory? It's one of the improvements in the TW series - the way the avatars have become more prominent and characterful.