Another Guild/Knight Order Question

[Chosun]

I am playing as Portugal and already have the Knights of Santiago HQ. I noticed that the Pope has a St. John's HQ in the city northeast of Jerusalem (controlled by me). If I were to either trade/swap cities with him or take it over, would I keep control of the St. John's HQ and be able to produce St. John's Knights? If yes, could I theoretically controll all the knight HQs by taking the cities that they are in and produce said knights? That would be kinda cool to be able to produce Santiago, St. John's, Templars, and Teutonic Knights me thinks.

[Xehh II]

I don't think you can. You might be able to, I don't know.

[rrdew]

I took over cities with different orders and kept thier buildings, so I can produce Templars in a city and Hospitalers from two different castles.

[vonsch]

I believe the restriction with orders is only on building them. You won't be offered those other guilds. But you can capture them.

[HoreTore]

While the factions who can get both templar and hospitaler guilds can train both units, I think HRE and spain are limited to teutonic and santiago... That depends on wether it's the buildings that are made exclusive, or if it's the units. If it is the latter, which I suspect it is, then no, you won't be able to train anything but santiago.

[Chosun]

While the factions who can get both templar and hospitaler guilds can train both units, I think HRE and spain are limited to teutonic and santiago... That depends on wether it's the buildings that are made exclusive, or if it's the units. If it is the latter, which I suspect it is, then no, you won't be able to train anything but santiago.

If I am to understand you correctly, I can only recruit Santiago Knights from any captured knight guilds? ie St. Johns and Templars will be pumping out Santiagos if controlled by me (Portugal)?

[Fletch]

If I am to understand you correctly, I can only recruit Santiago Knights from any captured knight guilds? ie St. Johns and Templars will be pumping out Santiagos if controlled by me (Portugal)?

You can only make Santiago knights from Santiago guildhouses as Portugal/Spain. Not sure about Teutonic/Germany. You get the health bonuses from Hospitalier Guilds, but nothing else, and nothing from Templar Guilds.

[HoreTore]

If I am to understand you correctly, I can only recruit Santiago Knights from any captured knight guilds? ie St. Johns and Templars will be pumping out Santiagos if controlled by me (Portugal)?

No, you can only build Santiago's from the santiago chapter house. Templar and st. john wouldn't produce anything, if Soain is banned from using anything but santiago.

I remember owning a st. john guild and not being able to produce anything from it, unfortunately, I can't remember if I was muslim or spanish...

[sapi]

Hmmm - I remember taking over a St John's guild but I can't for the life of me remember whether I was HRE or not at the time...

[supadodo]

check your building browser. If that guild is in your list then you can build the knights from it otherwise you only gain whatever other special benefits it provides.