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    Masticator of Oreos Member Foz's Avatar
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    Default Re: Spearwall Polearms vs. Cavalry

    Quote Originally Posted by sapi
    That can be said about any infantry unit, no matter how powerful
    w/o shield fix, yes. It requires more defense than any crippled shield unit or any non-shield unit has to properly withstand a cavalry charge. With fixed shields, armored sergeants will become quite menacing to cavalry, and units that ought to be armored tanks will do quite a good job absorbing those cavalry charges. DFKs for instance do a pretty good job smiting cavalry in close combat once they have the benefit of their full defense - no more of the "fall over like armored dominoes" thing. I've been using my version of the shield fix for quite some time, and it's amazing how much it has influenced my choice of where and how to commit my cavalry. It's a lot more tactical now, as many units are more than capable of shredding cavalry in melee combat once they're not suffering -12 defense.


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    I just tried Obudshaers vs. JHI using this method.

    The Obudshaers won, ~55 kills vs. ~30 losses.

    The key part of the victory was that the OS could attack the JHI first due to their long_pike attribute.

    That meant the entire JHI first line fell in the first seconds of the battle. Afterwards they put up a good fight but being outnumbered they were beaten.

    Perhaps JHI users can mitigate this by attacking as a square, but that's vulnerable to being flank-wrapped by the longer OS line.

    Basically this means the offensive strategy works against charging infantry as well, even good ones like JHI.

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    Miracle is that with shield fix because I remember doing the same thing with 1.1 patch and the Obudasher guys got owned from JHI. Both units just did a normal charge into each other 1v1 with no other distractions
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    Default Re: Spearwall Polearms vs. Cavalry

    That wouldn't matter neither unit uses shields so the shield fix doesn't affect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
    Miracle is that with shield fix because I remember doing the same thing with 1.1 patch and the Obudasher guys got owned from JHI. Both units just did a normal charge into each other 1v1 with no other distractions
    You had to have used a two rank line with guard mode off and spearwall on. Otherwise it will not work.

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    I have a question - What is the best Pikeman unit of the game?
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    That's a little off-topic but...

    I'd say Tercio pikemen because they are cheap and better disciplined than Aventuros. Pikemen need to be disciplined because you don' t want them chasing after horses and getting out of formation.

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    Oh wow that makes me pleasantly surprised. I thought that because they are so dirt cheap (350 florins) that there would be better pikes out there that I didn't know about. Anway sorry yeah that is slightly off topic but I just wanted to know.
    Last edited by Lorenzo_H; 03-18-2007 at 23:17.
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