Global Warning?Not true?

[Caius]

No one denies theres global warming. Everyone ignore the benifits of it however. And many just get carried away with it and thats the problem

Oh yeah.
What benefits?Yes, your sons and grandsons wont have a place where to live, because rains will make the zone inhabitable.

50000, yes 50000, cows and other animals are under water by the flood of the Parana river.That should never happened.But happened...

Are we ruining the earth forever? I doubt it.

I think yes

And sorry for making a foruth thread about the same

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I think the idea that we are causing permenant damage is way out there. Once we're gone the Earth will settle back down. This planet is very good at bouncing back.

As to the whole "Waterworld" thing, consider, when was the last time the Earth was completely covered in water?

Is the climate changing? Yes, I've seen it myself in my geologically short lifetime.

Are we a contributing factor? Almost certainly?

Is it going to get worse if we don't try to minimise out impact? Yes, I expect so.

Does that mean we should shut down civilisation and go back to the stone age? No, of course not.

What we need to do is to reduce our impact on our environment, but we need to do it in a way which does not destroy our society.

[Caius]

What we need to do is to reduce our impact on our environment

Of course

If we stop now, 45 years must pass between the athmosphere (sp?) can disipate the toxins we emanate.

[TevashSzat]

Adrian- My reference to Holocaust Denial was just thought of in a sec and I could see how it may be irrelevant, but I wanted to point out how refutations of global warming may seem very convincing to those who are not extremely well versed in science and do not know that much about the history of the debates.

Philipvs - What most enviormentalist and those who want to reduce man made emissions, is not to put us back to the stone age, but merely increase standards. Take the Kyoto Protocol, it doesn't say that all cars must not emit greenhouse gases and the buring of oil and coal must stop, but that emissions must be reduced. Many top energy executives and President Bush just ignored it saying that it costs too much. The truth is it will cost much to fix global warming once it becomes serious. What costs more? Taking high blood pressure and heart disease medicine every day or have a serious heart attack and end up in a coma for several months or having emergency surgery?

[Adrian II]

Adrian- My reference to Holocaust Denial was just thought of in a sec and I could see how it may be irrelevant, but I wanted to point out how refutations of global warming may seem very convincing to those who are not extremely well versed in science and do not know that much about the history of the debates.

Fair enough.

However, this works both ways. Various claims about man-made global warming also appeal to less-informed people, and for all sorts of extraneous reasons.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Oh yeah.
What benefits?Yes, your sons and grandsons wont have a place where to live, because rains will make the zone inhabitable.

Thanks for proving my point. Wht do you think were in the nidst of such a population surge? Why do you think we can produce so much food? Its because of global warming. Go back to the miniice age and see how it affected people. Just because it gets worse for people in ine region dosent mean it wont be better in other regions. No one here including scientists can predict any of this stufff with any certaintity. If it werent for global warming what would Europe look like? Most would still be under galciers as would most of north america. The earth and its land as sea masses will change drasticly and theres nothing we can do about it. Man is obsessed nowdays with his own power. In reality he has very little when it comes to suchthings.

I think yes

I think not and that your very naive to believe so. We are no more than a parasite that the earth will shake off when its damn good and ready. We may be able to destroy human life on earth but the earth will go on with no concern for us anymore than it did for the dinosaurs.Again I m far more afraid of gettting hit by an asteriod than the earth going to pot because of global warming. Anyway most scientists agree golbal warming will bring on global cooling. Whats all the bru haha?

[Caius]

Why do you think we can produce so much food?

Sorry, but I live in a farmer country(If you dont know, i will tell you im from argentina), and the global warning didnt helped us.Now, its killing us.The last year, im my zone, 8 milimeters of rain in 6 months...and this year, there are too many rains.The provinces of Formosa, Jujuy and Chaco are flooded.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Sorry, but I live in a farmer country(If you dont know, i will tell you im from argentina), and the global warning didnt helped us

How do you know? And what global warming are you speaking of?

its killing us.The last year, im my zone, 8 milimeters of rain in 6 months...and this year, there are too many rains.The provinces of Formosa, Jujuy and Chaco are flooded.

And of course you can prove this is from man made global warming.

Again western man is responsible for all thats wrong with the world.

[Tuuvi]

Sorry, but I live in a farmer country(If you dont know, i will tell you im from argentina), and the global warning didnt helped us.Now, its killing us.The last year, im my zone, 8 milimeters of rain in 6 months...and this year, there are too many rains.The provinces of Formosa, Jujuy and Chaco are flooded.

Just as one cold winter doesn't disprove global warming, neither does one particularly wet year prove global warming. If I understand it correctly, global warming isn't something that goes BOOM and is all of a sudden there, it is a gradual process. If it floods for 10 years in a row when before flooding was rare, then something is changing. If it floods a few times and then stops, then that is just normal weather patterns.