Global Warning?Not true?

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 03-18-2007, 03:16

You claimed that global warming improved crop yields, he pointed out that this is not necessarily the case

For the most part it is or do you think you get more plant growth in the cold? Just as global warming doesnt mean the earth will become uninhabitable. Its global warming that accounts for the abundance of food today.

Strange how everyone becomes an expert when typing on the internet.

It only takes common sense. No expertise is needed.

**Ironside** · 03-18-2007, 10:31

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

For the most part it is or do you think you get more plant growth in the cold? Just as global warming doesnt mean the earth will become uninhabitable. Its global warming that accounts for the abundance of food today.

The problem is the transitionary state were we get "environmental refugees" (and the people that doesn't move but are forced to adapt quickly into new conditions) and that it takes a few centuries to get high quality soil over vast areas.
To put it differently, the worlds food production will go down for a few decades before the new adoptations makes it possible to get good harvests in new areas, when encountering a global temperature rise.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 03-18-2007, 17:47

The problem is the transitionary state were we get "environmental refugees" (and the people that doesn't move but are forced to adapt quickly into new conditions) and that it takes a few centuries to get high quality soil over vast areas.
To put it differently, the worlds food production will go down for a few decades before the new adoptations makes it possible to get good harvests in new areas, when encountering a global temperature rise

So it has been since the dawn of man. Your point?

**Ironside** · 03-19-2007, 16:47

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

So it has been since the dawn of man. Your point?

That if things go nasty atleast 50 million Mexicans will come accross the border. And they won't stay in Texas.

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 03-19-2007, 16:56

That if things go nasty atleast 50 million Mexicans will come accross the border. And they won't stay in Texas.

Their already here

**caravel** · 03-19-2007, 16:59

A thread on global warming somehow transforms into a thread on mexican immigrants, give me bovine flatulence at least...

Crop yields and even the variety of crops available to grow would improve in certain regions due to global warming though this would probably be more than negated by lesser crop yields in the resulting drought regions.

**Ironside** · 03-19-2007, 18:58

Originally Posted by Caravel

A thread on global warming somehow transforms into a thread on mexican immigrants, give me bovine flatulence at least...

Well, Gawain had a breif period were he kept insisting on posting about the loss of the white people (aka blue eyed blondes in this case), due to interbreeding.

From what I gathered it had more to do with the loss of hot blonde chicks than with some dubious ideologies about human superiority sitting in the skin colour (not an issue for Gawain if blue eyes and blonde hair was dominant genes that is), the problem was that the articles he linked had some unwanted connections...

And as he seems to be running with the principle of:
"Men have died in disasters from the beginning of time, and each new frontier has brought new ways and new places to die. Why should the future be different?"
I was trying a point were he might care a bit more on, althuogh as the subject was a bit touchy I might have been a bit too vague on it.

Complains about the future Canadian grain prices might also work.

Edit: Cookie for the person who can figure out were I took the quote from (re-written a bit)

**Gawain of Orkeny** · 03-19-2007, 23:12

Well, Gawain had a breif period were he kept insisting on posting about the loss of the white people (aka blue eyed blondes in this case), due to interbreeding

Are you calling me a Nazi? Because I never said any suchthing. Nice distortion.

It isn't just about hot or cold though is it? What about rainfall. Excessive rainfall can destroy crops faster than it can make deserts fertile.

No its not about excessive rain fall no matter how hard they keep trying to hand you that crap. Weve been experiencing global warming for how long now? Im more afraid it will end. Where you all get the idea that man can manage the earths climate is beyond me. Better we figure out how to adapt than try to mess with it. The cure could be worse than the disease.

I think the argument is more that 'Global Warming' has become a lucrative industry for many involved and that people are dependent on it for their livelihoods and have vested interests in it, than its goal is to destroy jobs.

Exactly . Its like in the old days when alchemists claimed they could make gold.

**Slyspy** · 03-19-2007, 17:12

Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

For the most part it is or do you think you get more plant growth in the cold? Just as global warming doesnt mean the earth will become uninhabitable. Its global warming that accounts for the abundance of food today.

It only takes common sense. No expertise is needed.

It isn't just about hot or cold though is it? What about rainfall. Excessive rainfall can destroy crops faster than it can make deserts fertile.

Also don't you suspect that intensive farming, the use of pesticides, global transport systems and so on have anything to do with food production and availability?