Faction List for EB2?

[Krusader]

Crap, I'd hoped that M2TW would allow more of the game to be modded but where it seems to give more, like the unlimited models, it takes away with the limits to provinces and units. Oh well it will still be great to see this mod move on to the next phase.

Oh and for another faction, how about Axum?

Sure if you want a faction with two units

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Thrakia, Cheruskii, Numidia, Illyria, and Skythia or the Bastarnoz.

[Danest]

Weren't the Basternae the apparently green-haired, curved sword mercenaries in vanilla rtw?

[Kushan]

I'd personally like to see:
- Another Barbarian faction, preferably one to compete with the Sweboz.
- Syracuse
- and a rebel Roman faction. The only thing I miss from vanilla *shiver* is some representation of the Roman civil war and its transition from a republic to an empire.

Kushan

[CountArach]

Weren't the Basternae the apparently green-haired, curved sword mercenaries in vanilla rtw?

Yes.

I think that having Athends and Sparta as two seperate factions owuld be great, starting them allied at the start. Rhodes would also be good, though maybe that slot could be better used.

Pergamon is a great idea as well.

Another Gaelic faction would be cool, perhaps one of the Belgic tribes?

Another Germanic faction would be nice.

Another Iberian tribe? Perhaps the Celtiberians?

Oh and of course the Roman Civil War faction.

[Anthony]

Belgae aren't Gaelic. Gaels inhabitted Ireland and later Scotland. They weren't expressly Gallic though either; the Belgae were counted as a seperate culture group by Caesar, and the objects found in their territories bear out that they weren't over-much like Gauls, though they were Celts. There are no Gaelic factions in EB, though there are Q-Celtic regions and speakers (northern Iberia would be Q-Celtic speaking), who would be culturally related to them.

[Wolfman]

1.Numidian Faction
2.Mauryan Empire
3.Bastarnae
4.Belgae
5.Illyrians
6.Cisalpine Faction
7.Giodilic Faction
8.Syracuse
9.Pergamon
10.Chatti

[Mi Fhein]

i think there should be a rebel successor state that breaks off from the selucuid empire and spilts it in two making it harder for the selucuids to expand and crush the weaker factions in the east

[Rex_Pelasgorum]

Numidia , Meroe, or Indian faction....
Why not Hasmoneans ?

No more barbarians. I always preferre the civilized ones

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

i would think it would be a faction that would last for maybe the entire campaign or have some major impact on history

i would hope they would add a rebel romanii faction
that only appear when scripted (CIVIL WAR)

a Numidian faction would be good, to control cathage expansion
parthia would be good?
i'm not so sure about my eastern empires but does Parthia exist already in EB?

anyways

1. Rebel romanii faction
2. Numidian faction
3. 2nd germanic faction

[temenid]

Massagetae.

The decoupling of unit recruitment and wealth in MTW2 will allow for more accurate simulation of the nomad factions. And what could be more fun than invading lands and eating old folk?

Mini-mods.

I'd love to fight the Mauryans. Elephants, rain and disease are three radically different factors that'd add significantly to the variety of the campaign. But I can also understand why the Mauryans simply won't fit into the main EB campaign.

[Treshka]

Numidian and Syracuse are the ones I would like to see included and I dont know you guys but I really think another roman faction would be great, missing the civil wars

[Visarion]

what do you think about Nanda Empire in India?

[CountArach]

Belgae aren't Gaelic. Gaels inhabitted Ireland and later Scotland. They weren't expressly Gallic though either; the Belgae were counted as a seperate culture group by Caesar, and the objects found in their territories bear out that they weren't over-much like Gauls, though they were Celts. There are no Gaelic factions in EB, though there are Q-Celtic regions and speakers (northern Iberia would be Q-Celtic speaking), who would be culturally related to them.

That's interesting. What I did intend my statement to mean was that I would like another faction who inhabited the area called Gaul.

[King Agatholes of Syracuse]

My choice: (In no particular order)


1. Erainn
2. Syracuse
3. Meroe
4. Pergamom
5. Gandhara
6. Galatia
7. Illyria
8. Numidia
9. Another German faction

[Helgi]

Weren't the Basternae the apparently green-haired, curved sword mercenaries in vanilla rtw?

Yes, indeed.

[Quilts]

I can't help but feel that the game would benefit from having some a-historical 'factions' (Syracuse/Massilia) that are unplayable, but would allow the player to interact with them.

Under the current system there is no way to represent factions interactions with certain regions like Rome's alliance with Syracuse etc. There is no benefit for the player to leave Syracuse alone as was historical.

To make 'Syracuse' a viable mini-faction it would need an assortment of territories, like Massilia etc. Having it's territories spread out would most likely prevent it from becoming a regional power.....which is good.

I know that making factions unplayable seems against the 'spirit' of EB but perhaps the players experience can be improved by it's implemetation.

Cheers,

Quilts

[Teleklos Archelaou]

If we put the time and energy into making new factions for EB2, why not go ahead and make them playable too? We're excited at the possibility of making new family trees, faction histories, descriptions of buildings, traits, etc. for all the new factions it could allow us.

[Imperator]

Under the current system there is no way to represent factions interactions with certain regions like Rome's alliance with Syracuse etc.

That's what the Lvl 4 MIC represents, no? Here's a list to explain:

Level 1: Homeland- Field Native Troops, Pay Taxes, Culturally Identical, governed by your faction
Level 2: Province- Field Most Native Troops, Pay Taxes, Culturally Similar, governed by your faction
Level 3: Subjugated Land- Field Most Local Troops, Pay Some Taxes, Culturally Different, governed by puppet rulers or rulers subject to your government
Level 4: Allied State- Field Local Troops, No taxes, Culturally Independant, totally self-governed

Syracuse was basically a Lvl 4 province of Rome, in game terms.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

But they weren't benefiting from solid Roman amicitia in 272. Shortly after our game starts, they did become loyal friends and remained so for half a century, but it's still up in the air a bit in 272.

[Quilts]

That's what the Lvl 4 MIC represents, no? Here's a list to explain:

Level 1: Homeland- Field Native Troops, Pay Taxes, Culturally Identical, governed by your faction
Level 2: Province- Field Most Native Troops, Pay Taxes, Culturally Similar, governed by your faction
Level 3: Subjugated Land- Field Most Local Troops, Pay Some Taxes, Culturally Different, governed by puppet rulers or rulers subject to your government
Level 4: Allied State- Field Local Troops, No taxes, Culturally Independant, totally self-governed

Syracuse was basically a Lvl 4 province of Rome, in game terms.

Thanks for pointing that out. The problem is that you have to conquer them to make them so. Something that didn't happen. Why can't I enter an alliance with them? Because they are the Rebel faction.

Well perhaps what's needed is to 'divy up' the rebel faction to incorporate groups acting with the same interests, and can engage in diplomacy.

I know the modders hands are tied regarding the Rebs, but with the extra faction slots we can work on this a little.

Cheers,

Quilts

[Beefy187]

dont know if you already said this but..
India would be really cool to play as