Faction List for EB2?

**Quilts** · 03-22-2007, 03:06

Hi,

Just by way of comment. There seems to be alot of 'they didn't do anything' etc being used as a means for ruling out several faction possibilities. This may be true but we should consider that some of these potential factions did not achieve anything because of what they came up against.....in our history. RTW and it's Mods are 'creating' a new history, so I personally fail to see what really did happen as a precursor for disqualification. Due to limited factions slots there is a need to be 'ruthless' with potential candidates, but perhaps not as ruthless as some would indicate. I doubt the Casse or Lusotani would feature were we to get too pedantic about a factions impact on the ancient world.

My 2 cents.....

On the assumption that there's 10 new faction slots available I would vote for-

1. Bithynia. Didn't achieve a great deal in our history, but with a slightly more productive gene they may have gone onto great things. They were the major rival of Pontus until incorporated into the Roman Sphere.

2. An eastern Gallic faction, perhaps Scordisci. The Galatians could even be deemed as part of this faction, perhaps even the Capitol. They caused major headaches for the Macedonians and then Romans at various times.

3. Syracuse, or a Western Greek alliance incorporating Syracuse, Massilia, .... Not terribly historic but a desent way of representing Western Greek influences in the area.

4. Seleucid Rebels. To represent alot of breakaway states- Jewish, Commagene, Gordyene? etc

5. Nabateaen Kingdom? Not sure about this one, but they did fight and beat most everybody who took them on. Could have been players were the circumstances right.

6. Roman Rebels. If possible, only appearing in heavily influenced Roman regions. The rest should be 'normal' rebels. Not sure whether this is possible.

7. Attalid Pergamene. As Bithynia. Let down by ability to reproduce in our history, but.....

8. Numidian Tribe. Whichever tribe is deemded most appropriate.

9. Another German federation. Perhaps Cimbri/Teutones with the ability to Horde.....

10. The most influencial Illyrian tribe. Probably Queen ?????. Her husband before had a much better handle on things and may have been able to unite more of Illyria that we see in our history.

Cheers,

Quilts

**Boyar Son** · 03-22-2007, 03:15

Queen teuta, and before king Bardyllis

**Sarcasm** · 03-22-2007, 03:15

The real difference I suppose is that you consider "impact on the ancient world" as merely impact on the classical world, and then the "wild" forces that oppose it from the outside.

**kalkwerk** · 03-22-2007, 03:49

Id like to see emerging factions.

Cimbre/teutones (horde)
helvetii (horde)
parthians (if eliminated early reemerging as a horde)
rebel factions for rome, seleucids, ptolemaic kingdom
spartacus!

**Vorian** · 03-22-2007, 12:08

Originally Posted by kalkwerk

Id like to see emerging factions.

Cimbre/teutones (horde)
helvetii (horde)
parthians (if eliminated early reemerging as a horde)
rebel factions for rome, seleucids, ptolemaic kingdom
spartacus!

Factions that horde have been terribly made in BI (I haven't played MTW2, do they have hordes?)

You crush an entire nation, destroy them utterly and just because one family member survives, you suudendly have to deal with full stacks coming back again to take back their cities. Stupid.

**antisocialmunky** · 03-22-2007, 14:27

From what I've heard, the pope hordes and migrates in M2TW.

**The Errant** · 03-22-2007, 15:47

So do the Mongols and Timurids.

**Boyar Son** · 03-22-2007, 23:13

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

From what I've heard, the pope hordes and migrates in M2TW.

Are you serious? I'm about to attack them if they dont quite bossing me and my Holy Roman Empire around...

And is there a limit to the number of hording? we cant horde averyone can we? if so, might as well put in the factions that migrated!

**Casuir** · 03-22-2007, 23:22

Papal states faction behaviour is different to ordinary hording, probably hardcoded.

Btw the region limit is 199 not 198 so you dont have to drop a province.

**kalkwerk** · 03-31-2007, 22:26

Originally Posted by Vorian

Factions that horde have been terribly made in BI (I haven't played MTW2, do they have hordes?)

You crush an entire nation, destroy them utterly and just because one family member survives, you suudendly have to deal with full stacks coming back again to take back their cities. Stupid.

Keeps the factions in the game though and it makes some challenging situations. On the other side, fighting the germans in 0.81a is like fighting a permanent horde.

**Wolfman** · 03-22-2007, 03:50

I am going to revise my faction list.

1. Bastarnae
2. Belgae
3. Chatti
4. Masaesyles (Western Numidian Faction)
5. Massyli (Eastern Numidian Faction)
6. Cyrenaica
7. Pergamon
8. Syracuse
9. Mauryan Satrap
10. Galatian Tribe