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    Quote Originally Posted by lobf View Post
    Interesting. Source?
    A quick look gives:
    Commentarii de Bello Gallico 3.9 Where Caeser mentions Britons joining the Veneti in their fight against him.
    Commentarii de Bello Gallico 4.20 Mentions Caeser's reason for invading Britain, ie they were providing assistance to the Gauls.

    Now i know this is all long after the start date but i imagine archeology testifies to similar things a lot further back in time. I'm no archeologist so i wouldn't know what sources were used but EB has team members who are so I'm willing to trust their decision in this matter.
    Source for the Goidelic legend?
    You'd have to ask someone from the team for that one too, I got it from the biography of the Casse faction leader (again I'm willing to trust them in this), I'm guessing its from one of the various Irish "Cycles" stories that cover the early history of ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbin View Post
    You'd have to ask someone from the team for that one too, I got it from the biography of the Casse faction leader (again I'm willing to trust them in this), I'm guessing its from one of the various Irish "Cycles" stories that cover the early history of ireland.
    I think this one of those bits of EB for which the sources could not be found. A lot of the team's early Celtic material hasn't been properly referenced, so the team decided to redo most or all Celtic material for EB2.
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    Ah ok scratch off that one then.


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    If ye are really that interested in lPRIA Britain, there are a couple of books you need to have a look at.

    Iron Age Communities in Britain and Ireland, Barry Cunliffe. The bible.
    An Imperial Possession, Mattingly. Excellent.
    The Britons, Snyder. Very Good.
    The Iron Age in Northern Britain, Harding
    Prehistoric Britain, Darvill
    Ancient Britain, Dyer
    The Forts of Celtic Britain, Osprey

    I have to say that the suggestion that 3rd BCE Britain is not prima facie worthy of at least one faction is totally ludicrous. Do some reading.

    Even as early as 272 BCE, Graeco-Roman influence was becoming profound in Continental Celtic/Gallic societies. In Britain we have the chance to imagine a society with much less cultural adulteration. Also, the archaeological record is tremendously rich. Cissbury, Maiden Castle and Danebury are some of the largest multivalate hill forts in Europe. Hengtisbury Head was one of the busiest ports. Some of the best overall examples of Celtic craftwork, shields, helmets, swords and chariots come from Britain.

    The problem of course, is that the historical record does not begin until much later, so that we do not have a narrative to rely on for our story: but does that mean that we should abandon these people to the dustbin of history? In EB we are more inclined to take up the challenge and attempt to speak for history's silent people. All it takes is a little creativity.

    Re: the name. I won't tell you what we are going to do about that yet. 'Casse' is of course a guess, as we don't even have numismatic evidence for the period, but it is a very good guess nonetheless. The Cassi are one of the tribes mentioned by Caesar, who is basically our earliest textual source, and in addition 'Cassi' is an element in many other kinds of names. But there are some other possibilities. Anyone know what they might be?
    οἵη περ φύλλων γενεὴ τοίη δὲ καὶ ἀνδρῶν.
    Even as are the generations of leaves, such are the lives of men.
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