Puns like this are evil.Originally Posted by Adrian II
Next you'll be suggesting that Christians paying for government schools through taxes while also funding their own children to go to a religious school is just another cross they have to bear.
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Puns like this are evil.
Next you'll be suggesting that Christians paying for government schools through taxes while also funding their own children to go to a religious school is just another cross they have to bear.
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I mean that many such schools (Ahmadiyya and otherwise) are financed from abroad, Seamus. Wakey wakey...
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I don't know who this "Ahmadiyya" broad is, but she must be pretty rich to be financing schools...
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I knew that...I was attempting a spot of humor, as in pulling their "prayer rugs" out from under these Islamic schools. I then counterpunned with the cross thing.
No serious issues were addressed in my previous post, though humor was harmed in the making of this one.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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A clear case of cross purposes, my friend.
On topic: no 'hardening' of attitudes could ever be an excuse to permit the spread of Islamic extremism in schools. Any school that preaches anti-semitism, anti-democratic thought and suppression of women should be closed regardless of religious background, period.
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Despite this
link I still see more than 60% of girls and women without a headscarf. My area is at least 70% Turkish/Arab. I have yet to see anyone wearing a face veil.
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This is not about your area or about veils, it is about schools teaching hatred of democracy, of certain races or religions, even of 'enemy languages' like English. This mentality should not be taught in any curriculum whatsoever. There is no excuse for that. Close them.
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You mean any school like that existing within a western society, I assume :)
Anyway, seems to me that if such schools would be closed down (or if there'd even be some form of opposition gainst lighter forms of these) some would claim those who oppose would be racists, or right extremists, or whatever they can be called... anti-Muslim or something. If they'd do that it doesn't really make sense, but people are easily influenced, and politics... oh boy.
Ah, whatever. I see two basic ways: good and evil (roughly said, but you can give them other names, harmony and discord or something, peace and conflict, whatever). And I classify Islamic extremists as evil, but I do so with other ways of living as well, including certain western ways.
My point is that most humans are still (too much) internally/personally led by the "way of nature", and unless they get rid of it there will be no harmony (or peace, etc.) within them and between them... Muslim or not, democratic or not, fascist or not, you name it. As humans they all share this basic inner cruelty, emotion, desires, etc., of nature, and some people are worse than others.
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I don't think it's tolerated, it just takes ages until something is done.
Which can be good in some cases, bad in others.
Similar situation here, though I think the ratio of arabs is a bit lower, maybe 50%.
Now what I find especially interesting with regards to headscarves are women who wear them but otherwise dress very, erm, sexy, I mean, you can see the silhouette of a nice female body through a long black mantle or so. This always makes me wonder whether they wear that scarf because they want to or because they are being forced(and try to work around by showing their female curves).
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Personally, I think a headscarf can make a woman look very sexy.
Kind of ironic really.
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