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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Well, I'm one of them. Why? Simply because I do not in any way consider a fetus a human being or life in any way, and thus there is no "life" to kill, only a thing to remove. Kinda like an amputation....
    You're pro partial birth abortions ?

    EDIT: and just to make this a bit more controversial, suppose a woman is in labour, can she still chose to abort ? What abouta day before she's due ? A week ? Welcome to the gray area...
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    You're pro partial birth abortions ?

    EDIT: and just to make this a bit more controversial, suppose a woman is in labour, can she still chose to abort ? What abouta day before she's due ? A week ? Welcome to the gray area...
    That's not much of a gray area. No one would approve of that.

    Now, 22 weeks in, that's a gray area...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDC
    That's not much of a gray area. No one would approve of that.

    Now, 22 weeks in, that's a gray area...
    It's dark gray

    think the opposite view held by pro-lifers that the morning after pill should be illegal is as extreme, though might not appeal to people's emotions as much.


    I should have also added that the child wasn't handicapped in any way and that the mother is not at risk.
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    Late abortions should not be legal because it is a big operation, abortions should take place within the first few weeks, when it's still minor.

    But no, I don't consider anything as "life" until it is born, one way or another. It would be rather hard to abort a day before its due without giving birth to it and then whacking it...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Late abortions should not be legal because it is a big operation, abortions should take place within the first few weeks, when it's still minor.

    But no, I don't consider anything as "life" until it is born, one way or another. It would be rather hard to abort a day before its due without giving birth to it and then whacking it...
    See, you do have a gray area, you consider some abortions worse than others.
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    Default Re: abortion clarification

    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    See, you do have a gray area, you consider some abortions worse than others.
    Nah, not really, at least not in an ethical way. It's best for the mother that the abortion is done as early as possible, but I have no problems with late abortions. If it's OK with the mother, than it's OK with me.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Nah, not really, at least not in an ethical way. It's best for the mother that the abortion is done as early as possible, but I have no problems with late abortions. If it's OK with the mother, than it's OK with me.
    Okay, then you're a bit of an extremist

    Don't worry there are enough of those on both sides, but I do believe that the majority of people take a somewhat less extreme stance. At least those who've given it serious thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Okay, then you're a bit of an extremist

    Don't worry there are enough of those on both sides, but I do believe that the majority of people take a somewhat less extreme stance. At least those who've given it serious thought.
    I have given it serious thought, and I know I'm quite extreme...

    My principle is simply that "when life begins" is a question without an answer, and as such left to the individual to figure out. Thus, I don't believe there should be any laws against it, the only thing stopping it should be the mothers ethics and conscience... And of course, the limits in the medical field...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    I have given it serious thought, and I know I'm quite extreme...

    My principle is simply that "when life begins" is a question without an answer, and as such left to the individual to figure out. Thus, I don't believe there should be any laws against it, the only thing stopping it should be the mothers ethics and conscience... And of course, the limits in the medical field...
    So an abortion at 8 months, when if the baby was born it'd be absolutely fine, is ok?

    I don't think there are any groups that think that. It's just horrible.

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