Military: Suspected 9/11 mastermind confessed

**Shaka_Khan** · 03-15-2007, 02:32

Military: Suspected 9/11 mastermind confessed

Transcripts show he claimed responsibility for planning 29 attacks

LINK

Does this mean both this guy and Osama planned the attacks together?

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 03-15-2007, 02:42

He was widely believed to have planned it? Why is everyone all "osama osama" then?

**Lemur** · 03-15-2007, 02:59

Osama is not the mastermind of Al Qaeda. He is a face, a voice, and a "inspirational" leader. Ayman Al-Zawahiri is widely considered to be the brains of the outfit. Al Qaeda had nothing to show for itself but a string of defeats and a lot of wasted money until Al-Zawahiri and his Islamic Jihad pals merged with them. If you're interested in understanding the enemy, I can't recommend The Looming Tower too highly. It's the comprehensive work on the subject, and its sourcing is a thing of beauty.

Apparently KSM was implicated some time ago as the mastermind of the 9/11 hijacking plot. The news is that he confessed in front of a tribunal.

**ShadeHonestus** · 03-15-2007, 04:55

Get your tin hats on...soon will come the revelations that he was a member of the secret Bush society or the Masons....or wait, even better, a patsy. Where is Michael Moore when you need him, surely somebody here will step up...

BTW, is he wearing the al-Qaida version of the "wife-beater"?

**Lemur** · 03-15-2007, 05:48

He would be wearing the orange coveralls that detainees wear in Guantanamo. Don't think a wife-beater is included.

Interesting detail:

Mr. Mohammed indicated in the transcript that some of his earlier statements to C.I.A. interrogators were the result of torture. But he said that his statements at the tribunal on Saturday were not made under duress or pressure.

**Beren Son Of Barahi** · 03-15-2007, 05:54

Originally Posted by Lemur

He would be wearing the orange coveralls that detainees wear in Guantanamo. Don't think a wife-beater is included.

Interesting detail:

Mr. Mohammed indicated in the transcript that some of his earlier statements to C.I.A. interrogators were the result of torture. But he said that his statements at the tribunal on Saturday were not made under duress or pressure.

i don't see what he has to gain from admitting anything at all, they are going to neck him regardless of what happens at the "trial", mock trial that is.

p.s i didn't know wife beaters was an international thing... i thought that was an aussie thing... guess you learn something pointless everyday...

**Devastatin Dave** · 03-15-2007, 17:45

Originally Posted by ShadeHonestus

BTW, is he wearing the al-Qaida version of the "wife-beater"?

He kinda looks like Ron Jeremy to me. I wonder if they've got a "money shot"?

**ShadeHonestus** · 03-15-2007, 19:01

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

He kinda looks like Ron Jeremy to me. I wonder if they've got a "money shot"?

lawl

**Goofball** · 03-15-2007, 20:19

Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave

He kinda looks like Ron Jeremy to me. I wonder if they've got a "money shot"?

Thank you! I knew he reminded me of somebody but couldn't put my finger on it. It's been bugging me all morning.

**KukriKhan** · 03-15-2007, 13:06

One more paving stone on the road to "Global War on Terrorism; WE WON!!" -ville, a made-for-TVnews movie, coming to your living room in August '08, just in time for US elections?

**Bijo** · 03-15-2007, 22:42

Originally Posted by Shaka_Khan

Military: Suspected 9/11 mastermind confessed

Transcripts show he claimed responsibility for planning 29 attacks

LINK

Does this mean both this guy and Osama planned the attacks together?

That article is useless, as many are. There's no way for the ordinary (or not so ordinary) person to know whether the information therein is based on truth. There are so many things we don't know, and so many possibilities, that there's one thing we can always conclude for sure in such cases: we don't know. We can at least be very suspicious about authorities and information, as they're still controlled by humans who might have "certain agendas" to fulfil.

**ShadeHonestus** · 03-15-2007, 22:53

Originally Posted by Bijo

We can at least be very suspicious about authorities and information, as they're still controlled by humans who might have "certain agendas" to fulfil.

As we should be equally suspicious of any suspicion of the authorities and information as they are human and largely the unwashed masses who have either their own agendas or those given to them.

3.5 cents

[edit]
To those involved in the discussion of "shelf life".

The point is not methodologies or technologies. The point is in the preservation of assets. The reason you don't post interrogations and intel received from detainees is not to conceal what you don't know or your methods for obtaining either the detainee or the information. The point is that you do not wish the target groups to know what you know and what information you have obtained. Why compromise the intelligence at the moment of obtaining it....that's laughable. Even in a target network which no doubt recognizes which information can be potentially compromised it is rarely ever completely covered and that's where the intelligence battle is fought, in the details in the minutia and in their trends. Let alone opening a detainee up for cross examination. If you cannot fathom the fallout of that, I have some pond water rights in Chernobyl I will sell you.