Casse Generals As Infantry

[ziegenpeter]

Sorry for that necromancy, but if I aplly those changes to the edu, does it follow that I have to pay the actual upkeep for the generals?
Actually I think you also normally do pay upkeep for your FMs, because whenever I play a tiny faction and a new family mamber comes of age or marries into your dynasty, the income of your towns drops.

EDIT: I don't know if it would be inappropriate to post this in the regular forum? I think fewer people look here.

[Ludens]

Sorry for that necromancy, but if I aplly those changes to the edu, does it follow that I have to pay the actual upkeep for the generals?
Actually I think you also normally do pay upkeep for your FMs, because whenever I play a tiny faction and a new family mamber comes of age or marries into your dynasty, the income of your towns drops.

Yes, you will have to pay the standard upkeep for the unit (taking bodyguard size into account, of course). You also pay 200 mnai for every family member regardless of the size of their bodyguard: this is displayed as "wages" rather than "upkeep" in the economy and city detail scrolls. Standard EB bodyguard units are therefor free of upkeep.

EDIT: I don't know if it would be inappropriate to post this in the regular forum? I think fewer people look here.

I like to keep questions about submods here, but if you really can't get an answer you can post in the main forum.

[ziegenpeter]

But I guess I could make some changes to also make the new BGs "free" (except for those 200)...?

[Ludens]

But I guess I could make some changes to also make the new BGs "free" (except for those 200)...?

Yes: the third number in the stat_cost line represents upkeep. Set that zero. This will mean that the normal Calawre (or whatever unit you select as BG) will also become free of upkeep. Also, according to Aradan the A.I. will not recruit units that are set as general's bodyguards. Keep that in mind when you start a campaign with another faction.

[johnhughthom]

I'm currently playing a Casse campaign with Calawre as bodyguard, then Rycalawre after reform. I left the upkeep in and have been rolling in money as usual. It's your call of course, but it hasn't affected my campaign at all, I had 2 million before invading Gaul.

[ziegenpeter]

OK thank you guys so far

Also, according to Aradan the A.I. will not recruit units that are set as general's bodyguards. Keep that in mind when you start a campaign with another faction.

Well... since casse is net really influencing any of my other campaigns (even sweboz...) I think that wont do much harm ;) But thank you!

But what about heavy cav as Casse BG, just like the Gauls? Remi Mairepos eg


EDIT: Is it impossible to tweak the data in a way that your new BGs have no upkeep but the "regular" units still cost you?

[Ludens]

But what about heavy cav as Casse BG, just like the Gauls? Remi Mairepos eg

EDIT: Is it impossible to tweak the data in a way that your new BGs have no upkeep but the "regular" units still cost you?

Wait a minute, I've misinterpreted Watchman's post. He didn't set another unit as bodyguard: he replaced the Casse bodyguard entry. Which means that the normal Calawre entry is still unchanged (same upkeep, A.I. can recruit them).

OK, if this is the case then you should ignore my previous posts. This mod should work perfectly. If you wish to have another unit as bodyguard, simply copy the unit entry of that unit minus the first line (type) and paste it over the Casse BG unit as Watchman did here. The only change you need to make is the third number in the cost-line (upkeep). You can use any Casse-recruitable unit for this.

And don't forget to make a back-up...

[TheStranger]

Sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I have a question:

I'm currently playing a Casse campaign with Calawre as bodyguard, then Rycalawre after reform. I left the upkeep in and have been rolling in money as usual. It's your call of course, but it hasn't affected my campaign at all, I had 2 million before invading Gaul.

I know how to change the general's bodyguard but how do I change it so the the unit does upgrade after the reform, like johnhughthom wrote?

Thx

[Ludens]

You can change a unit into the bodyguard-upgrade by giving them the "general_unit_upgrade" attribute. Check out Aradan's EDU guide for details.