Latest Update on patch 1.2

[JFC]

@MAD CAT MECH I dunno mate, I don't subscribe to your conspiracy theory. After all the Patch is free.

[Odin]

@MAD CAT MECH I dunno mate, I don't subscribe to your conspiracy theory. After all the Patch is free.

I'm with this guy. While it is a mamoth patch I dont think there is going to be anything mind blowing here, but I suspect that there might be more scenarios?

Long and short is a little, blah.... Much prefer being able to pick from early, mid, and high (ala MTW). I dont know how much megs it would take to intro that kind of change, but short of that I dont expect much in the way of new features.

CA traditionally saves those for expansions.

[Carl]

Long and short is a little, blah.... Much prefer being able to pick from early, mid, and high (ala MTW). I dont know how much megs it would take to intro that kind of change, but short of that I dont expect much in the way of new features.

Without changing the basic engine I don't belive such a thing could be implimented as it would require that the game was able to select from more than 1 set of files. Changing most of the stuff would littrially require that several fles be altered, so you'd need more than one vershion of each file for it to work.

[HoreTore]

Without changing the basic engine I don't belive such a thing could be implimented as it would require that the game was able to select from more than 1 set of files. Changing most of the stuff would littrially require that several fles be altered, so you'd need more than one vershion of each file for it to work.

There is another way of doing it; simply make a descr_strat for high, and one for late. Then simply change to whichever one you want...

[Foz]

I'm with this guy. While it is a mamoth patch I dont think there is going to be anything mind blowing here, but I suspect that there might be more scenarios?

Shields working correctly by itself will be mind blowing... and then there's everything else to consider too. Here's a few more that jump out at me:

• When defending an enemy settlement with multiple exits, taking your army out of the side/back door does not make it easier to defeat the enemy.
• Siege AI is not passive.
• Sallying AI army now reacts properly to being assaulted from 2 sides
• Units do not break formation when chasing routers
• Improved diplomacy mechanic - AI Factions now stick with alliances and/or attack 'more intelligently'
• Improved use of ladders
• Citadel and Fortress paths fixed so that units can avoid assaulting inner walls
• Breach pathfinding tweaked
• 2H axemen attack tweaked, inc. Attacking Cavalry
• When an enemy sallies and is defeated you no-longer have to wait for the timer to run out in-order to win.
• Cavalry charges do not fail when charging skirmishing/moving units or if a knight is out of position
• Traits/VnV triggers tweaked
• Drag Deploy functionality tweaked

I've personally experienced (and been annoyed by) just about all of these problems, and have to say that the game should be considerably different with all of them fixed. It might be more mind blowing than people expect... just not in a "new content" kind of way.

[Odin]

Shields working correctly by itself will be mind blowing... and then there's everything else to consider too. Here's a few more that jump out at me:

• When defending an enemy settlement with multiple exits, taking your army out of the side/back door does not make it easier to defeat the enemy.
• Siege AI is not passive.
• Sallying AI army now reacts properly to being assaulted from 2 sides
• Units do not break formation when chasing routers
• Improved diplomacy mechanic - AI Factions now stick with alliances and/or attack 'more intelligently'
• Improved use of ladders
• Citadel and Fortress paths fixed so that units can avoid assaulting inner walls
• Breach pathfinding tweaked
• 2H axemen attack tweaked, inc. Attacking Cavalry
• When an enemy sallies and is defeated you no-longer have to wait for the timer to run out in-order to win.
• Cavalry charges do not fail when charging skirmishing/moving units or if a knight is out of position
• Traits/VnV triggers tweaked
• Drag Deploy functionality tweaked

I've personally experienced (and been annoyed by) just about all of these problems, and have to say that the game should be considerably different with all of them fixed. It might be more mind blowing than people expect... just not in a "new content" kind of way.

Fair enough, however in the context of size of the patch there has yet to be an explination of what makes up all those megs. While that isnt an excuse for the items above not being in the game now, it will hardly be mindblowing due to the mods that directly address these issues now.

I understand not everyone likes mods or wants them, but the difference between 1.01 and 1.01 with a fixer mod (ltc, or carls) is quite noticable, right now.

[Kommodus]

• Siege AI is not passive.

Sounds nice.

• Units do not break formation when chasing routers

Finally! This will be a much-appreciated improvement.

• Improved diplomacy mechanic - AI Factions now stick with alliances and/or attack 'more intelligently'

Very nice. Attacks seem a bit random currently.

• Improved use of ladders

So they might have a use now?

• 2H axemen attack tweaked, inc. Attacking Cavalry

This is probably the #1 complained-about bug, so this will be a much-appreciated fix.

• Cavalry charges do not fail when charging skirmishing/moving units or if a knight is out of position

Hallelujah! The current behavior can be extremely annoying at times.

I agree that this patch will be a huge improvement. All I wish is that some of these bugs had been fixed a little sooner.

[Carl]

it will hardly be mindblowing due to the mods that directly address these issues now.

Many of those battlefeild AI things listed have not and cannot be adressed by modders, so actually it will be VERY diffrent from the various Mods out their.

[Quickening]

• Traits/VnV triggers tweaked

What does this one mean exactly?

Ive never been one to use mods ever until yesterday when I tried Lusted's work. Superb job. If the vanilla game plays anything near that after this patch I'll be an even happier man.

[nookie]

it will be nice to stop escorting foes off the battlemap - i have jumped familly members numerous times hoping for the quick kill - i surround them and the familly member just squirts out... unreal... Atleast now i will have a chance to run him down instead of making sure he gets off the battle map ok...


???????? Was i reading this post rigth, will my spearmen be more effective against horse...

i cant wait... i am switching to company of heros if this does not come out soon..

[alex9337]

I love this game. Haven't stopped playing it since its release last fall. Yes, have to overlook a few things, but still immensly enjoyable.

Hope the patch comes out this week! Should be great with all the fixes.

Still haven't seen anything definitive about fixing the tower bug, though?

[Quickening]

Still haven't seen anything definitive about fixing the tower bug, though?

The one where cannon towers are ballista towers and vice versa?

[SoxSexSax]

Shields working correctly by itself will be mind blowing... and then there's everything else to consider too. Here's a few more that jump out at me:

• When defending an enemy settlement with multiple exits, taking your army out of the side/back door does not make it easier to defeat the enemy.
• Siege AI is not passive.
• Sallying AI army now reacts properly to being assaulted from 2 sides
• Units do not break formation when chasing routers
• Improved diplomacy mechanic - AI Factions now stick with alliances and/or attack 'more intelligently'
• Improved use of ladders
• Citadel and Fortress paths fixed so that units can avoid assaulting inner walls
• Breach pathfinding tweaked
• 2H axemen attack tweaked, inc. Attacking Cavalry
• When an enemy sallies and is defeated you no-longer have to wait for the timer to run out in-order to win.
• Cavalry charges do not fail when charging skirmishing/moving units or if a knight is out of position
• Traits/VnV triggers tweaked
• Drag Deploy functionality tweaked

I've personally experienced (and been annoyed by) just about all of these problems, and have to say that the game should be considerably different with all of them fixed. It might be more mind blowing than people expect... just not in a "new content" kind of way.

x2!

I've been rather negative about the game both here and on the official forum, but I REALLY want them to sort it out and make it the game it should have been. There aren't as many major issues as you might think, it's just that one or two of them (namely shield bug and siege pathfinding) are critical, and by themselves spoil the game. I'm really hopeful that 1.2 will reignite my enthusiasm for the game (I've tried the problem fixer, and while it is significantly better in field battles then vanilla, the siege pathfinding normally scuppers my evening).

[Hoplite7]

GOD I CANT WAIT FOR THIS PATCH! RELEASE IT ALREADY!


It's late, so should we expect further additions/fixes/quality? Anyone know when we can download it?


How long should the download take on a fast connection?

[Quickening]

GOD I CANT WAIT FOR THIS PATCH! RELEASE IT ALREADY!


It's late, so should we expect further additions/fixes/quality? Anyone know when we can download it?


How long should the download take on a fast connection?

It will take about ten minutes on my eight megabyte connection.

[sapi]

GOD I CANT WAIT FOR THIS PATCH! RELEASE IT ALREADY!


It's late, so should we expect further additions/fixes/quality? Anyone know when we can download it?


How long should the download take on a fast connection?

On an average connection, which can do around 50KB/s, it'll take 3 to 4 hours.

[Lusted]

There is another way of doing it; simply make a descr_strat for high, and one for late. Then simply change to whichever one you want...

Not really you'd have to change the building file too change what units are available for each campaign, as well as other files to balance things.

[Afro Thunder]

• Traits/VnV triggers tweaked

Hopefully that means no more disappearing traits when you get just one point in an anti-trait.

[Terry]

I've been tempted to use the Lusted mod, but I think I might wait till the patch comes out..

Terry

[whodat]

Well, as of 0900 CDT this morning, there is no new info on the patch release showing up on the totalwar.com patch thread.

Hang in there guys

[Callahan9119]

I've been tempted to use the Lusted mod, but I think I might wait till the patch comes out..

Terry

prolly be a few more weeks bud, lusteds mod is pretty good, but doesnt seem to have carls fix for units holding formation, like when cav chase routers...my only complaint

you might as well get it, could prolly play a few campaigns before the patch is out

[Kryptonitus]

At this point I am like a kid waiting on Christmas morning.

[Static]

I decided to not wait for the patch, i'm trying Rome TW Europa Barbarorum in the meantime. This game for me unfortunately was unplayable. I finished a campaign as the English very easily because of all the siege bugs.

I might not even play after 1.2, I might wait for 1.3 or whatever, just because there's soo many bugs that there will be still some after this patch, and not enough time will be spent fine tuning certain game mechanics like diplomacy I fear.

[Foz]

prolly be a few more weeks bud, lusteds mod is pretty good, but doesnt seem to have carls fix for units holding formation, like when cav chase routers...my only complaint

It's a very easy fix to do yourself. See this link for the info:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...ng#post1468555