I'm back, and I'm looking for someone to kill [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Whos in the tie?

I believe BlackAxe to be the best option for todays lynch.
See the thread for reasons
Vote: BlackAxe

[Andres]

Unvote: Andres
Vote: Abstain

I really need to just shut up and quit showing my n00bness at mafia...

It seemed logical at first, but I need to think more and consider all the angles before voting.

Ok, BlackAxe, I understand your frustration. But you voted and gave a reason. It's pretty normal people want you to elaborate. Getting angry (or playing that you are getting angry) and refusing to talk or threatening with commiting suicide doesn't do any good to your case.

I just wonder, why did you unvote me? You have a personal reason? Did someobody else convince you? If so, who and which reason exactly convinced you to unvote me?

These are the kind of answers the town wants to hear, to compare them later on in the game and to decide if you are innocent or not.

So, if you are a townie, it's in the towns intrest to convince us, since a lynched or suicided townie will do no good to the game.

For now, I'll vote for someone who is normally pretty active in the thread and who has been way too silent in this game:

Vote : HughTower

Your silence is very unusual my friend. Talk to us

[Caius]

Hmm,
Vote: CountArach

Unvote:OldSchool
Vote:Omanes

Reason:Reason?
If you explain, I will retreat my vote

[Lord Winter]

Out of the two kills one was realistic, the other increadably weird. Out of the past I would not put it past Andres or GH to chose ethier of those. GH has also been unussly quiet.

Vote: General Hankerchief

[RoadKill]

Vote: Sasaki
I sense that your trying to preassure all the votes on BlackAxe while taking your suspicion of yourself. Although this is a terrible reason, but i trust my instincts.

[Kommodus]

@Kommo: isn't it a little early to vote a lurker? After all, until your post you hadn't posted anything. Why not vote for BlackAxe if you find him suspicious?

Well, if GBB said something by now I'd retract my vote. He still hasn't, so my vote stands. I picked him partially because he's a new player, and that makes him precisely the kind of player I want to get to know early in the game.

Also, I find BlackAxe mildly suspicious, but not enough to warrant a vote. He's just someone to watch as the game progresses (if he manages to survive the round.) I find the arguments being used against him rather witch-hunt-esque, though his questionable defense hasn't help his case.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Out of the two kills one was realistic, the other increadably weird. Out of the past I would not put it past Andres or GH to chose ethier of those. GH has also been unussly quiet.

Vote: General Hankerchief

As Ichigo has already stated, he wrote the entire kill. Therefore, this would absolve me of any such wrongdoing.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Sasaki
I sense that your trying to preassure all the votes on BlackAxe while taking your suspicion of yourself. Although this is a terrible reason, but i trust my instincts.

hmm? There isn't much on blackAxe it's true. But there is more than on anybody else, which is what is required for voting.

@Stig: haha I see you noticed that. I would expect more of a contribution.

@kommo: one vote isn't pressure. I argued with you about this in ignoramus's game...I was was mafia there but it is something I believe. Unless someone is in the lead they aren't under pressure. And in a game where the days are 24 hours it's not a good idea to put someone in the lead for lurking. Lurking is not inherently suspicious.

[BlackAxe3001]

Ok, BlackAxe, I understand your frustration. But you voted and gave a reason. It's pretty normal people want you to elaborate. Getting angry (or playing that you are getting angry) and refusing to talk or threatening with commiting suicide doesn't do any good to your case.

It did look like I was angry, but it was more frustration at the twisting of my words. I apologize to everyone for my semi-angry state. It wont happen again. It is after all, only a game.

I just wonder, why did you unvote me? You have a personal reason? Did someobody else convince you? If so, who and which reason exactly convinced you to unvote me?

I unvoted you because the mafia killed motep because you voted for him before the kills were put in. This was obviously a frame attempt by the mafia against you. The mafia wanted to frame Andres to look like mafia. I fell for this trick which has ultimately let to my demise by the which hunt word twisting that has occurred mostly on page 3. My defenses may suck, but I would like someone to show me how to do better if they really sucked that bad. The mafia frame attempt on Andres will also cause anyone who falls for their trick too look undeniably like mafia also. There really is no way to get out of it. Unfortunately I have made a deadly mistake and now the town will suffer for it.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It's now a four way tie right ?

Interesting first day.

What in particular is interesting?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

CountArach is playing on the suspicions of the town for his own gain. There is one other player doing this, Sasaki Kojiro, who immediately took up Pannonion's story to also circulate suspicion. From what I can see Kommodus is taking up an idea - which is, in effect, taking advantage of a newbies' newness, and Sasaki and CountArach are trying to influence other players into thinking it is true and believable through their votes. The chances are that, for now when there is little proof, that they are both on the same team, however I am not too sure about Pannonion. I will wait for him to defend himself.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I unvoted you because the mafia killed motep because you voted for him before the kills were put in. This was obviously a frame attempt by the mafia against you. The mafia wanted to frame Andres to look like mafia. I fell for this trick which has ultimately let to my demise by the which hunt word twisting that has occurred mostly on page 3. My defenses may suck, but I would like someone to show me how to do better if they really sucked that bad. The mafia frame attempt on Andres will also cause anyone who falls for their trick too look undeniably like mafia also. There really is no way to get out of it. Unfortunately I have made a deadly mistake and now the town will suffer for it.

That's much more coherant.

unvote

[Sasaki Kojiro]

CountArach is playing on the suspicions of the town and manipulating them for his own gain. There is one other player doing this, Sasaki Kojiro, who immediately took up Pannonion's story to also circulate suspicion. From what I can see Pannonion is taking up an idea and Sasaki and CountArach are trying to enforce it. The chances are that, for now when there is little proof, that they are on the same team - the mafia team.

Pannonian isn't playing.

Witch-hunt is my middle name btw :p

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Sorry, I meant Kommodus - they both have the same avatar, it makes it confusing, sorry.

[Lord Winter]

As Ichigo has already stated, he wrote the entire kill. Therefore, this would absolve me of any such wrongdoing.

I got the impression that he ment writing it kind in the way you wirite yours. The mafia give him the basic kill method and then he does all the detail. Ichigo could you confirm ethier way.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sorry, I meant Kommodus - they both have the same avatar, it makes it confusing, sorry.

So your accusation is that Kommo, CA, and I are on a mafia team? I believe I was the first to bring up blackaxe, or maybe DG. Anyway, why do you claim to know BlackAxe is innocent?

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

I don't know he is innocent, I just think he is. A regualar mafioso would usually attempt to arouse suspition against another, he is yet to do that.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I don't know he is innocent, I just think he is. A regualar mafioso would usually attempt to arouse suspition against another, he is yet to do that.

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: Omanes

a) Never use the psychology of what the mafia might or might not do as an alibi.
b) Look at Dutch_guy's record in Mafia VI.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

May I ask GH, why you are targeting me?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

May I ask GH, why you are targeting me?

Obviously he is mafia, because he is trying to arouse suspicions against you

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Out of the two kills one was realistic, the other increadably weird. Out of the past I would not put it past Andres or GH to chose ethier of those. GH has also been unussly quiet.

Vote: General Hankerchief

Vote:Destroyer

Voting based off kills = nono.

[Csargo]

I got the impression that he ment writing it kind in the way you wirite yours. The mafia give him the basic kill method and then he does all the detail. Ichigo could you confirm ethier way.

I wrote the entire kills the only thing that was given to me was the person to be killed and rabid sheep flamerthrower.

[The Foolish Horseman]

Well, if GBB said something by now I'd retract my vote. He still hasn't, so my vote stands. I picked him partially because he's a new player, and that makes him precisely the kind of player I want to get to know early in the game.

Also, I find BlackAxe mildly suspicious, but not enough to warrant a vote. He's just someone to watch as the game progresses (if he manages to survive the round.) I find the arguments being used against him rather witch-hunt-esque, though his questionable defense hasn't help his case.

Hey!!! I havent been at home for the weekend which explains my non posting


Vote: Omanes Alexandropolites the blah blah


a magic moose named Fred told me...he has pink horns

[Csargo]

Please bold votes or they won't be counted.

[Lord Winter]

Vote:Destroyer

Voting based off kills = nono.

They can be helpful when taken with a large grain of salt. No matter what, even if they are re harrings the kills reflect something off the mafioso. Look at Mafia V for example. Also saskii is it me or have you been throwing around more bad townie votes then ussual?

[The Foolish Horseman]

duly noted

[Sasaki Kojiro]

They can be helpful when taken with a large grain of salt. No matter what, even if they are re harrings the kills reflect something off the mafioso. Look at Mafia V for example. Also saskii is it me or have you been throwing around more bad townie votes then ussual?

The ration of innocents lynched based on kills to mafia lynched based on kills is extremely high.

I've cast two votes.


@GBB: Why do I get the feeling you aren't taking this game seriously?

[Dutch_guy]

What in particular is interesting?

That we had a four way tie at that point, when we usually have one wagon going around in the first round. Not 4 semi wagons, just waiting to fill up.

[The Foolish Horseman]

The ration of innocents lynched based on kills to mafia lynched based on kills is extremely high.

I've cast two votes.


@GBB: Why do I get the feeling you aren't taking this game seriously?

i am taking it seriously, just very tired mate

[Kommodus]

Hey!!! I havent been at home for the weekend which explains my non posting

Very well. Thanks for joining us!

Unvote: GBB

Please understand my motive here: you're new to the game, and I'd simply like to get to know you. Sometimes I can pinpoint mafiosi because I know their past behavior. Since you're one of the new players here I can't do that with you, so I want to make sure you participate so we can all get a feel for your style.

@kommo: one vote isn't pressure. I argued with you about this in ignoramus's game...I was was mafia there but it is something I believe. Unless someone is in the lead they aren't under pressure. And in a game where the days are 24 hours it's not a good idea to put someone in the lead for lurking. Lurking is not inherently suspicious.

Sasaki, no one knows that inactivity isn't inherently suspicious better than me - I've got the statistics all plotted out. Sometimes mafia try semi-lurking as a tactic, but it's quite rare, and doesn't often work anyway.

Nevertheless, I didn't want to join the witch-hunt against BlackAxe. I saw that there were some reasons for it, but nothing convincing. So I wanted to try a different angle. As you see, it did get a response - albeit a small one.

And BTW, I do think that going after lurkers is a decent tactic very early in the game when there's not much else to go on. Later in the game, hopefully everyone's active and has left a good enough post trail to make better judgements. A mafioso trying semi-lurking is likely to feel some pressure and will respond after getting a few votes, even if they're not necessarily in the lead.

Let's see then...

Vote: rdeče.jabolko

Will the guy with the wierd character in his name please enlighten us with his opinion?