I'm back, and I'm looking for someone to kill [Concluded]

[pevergreen]

Right, extreme lurking from funny name guy, so:

Vote: redece.jabalko

[Andres]

Still Alive:
AndrestheCunning
Sasaki Kojiro
CF
RoadKill
pevergreen
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko

Killed:
CR
Motep
HughTower
Dutch_guy
GH
Kommodus
WarMaster Horus
GBB

Lynched:
Omanes
Stig
OldSchool

Suicide:
DoH

WoGed:
Ignoramus

With 8 still alive, I think it's time to reveal:

You have been selected as the detective in my mafia game. Your role is to PM me every night phase with someone you want to investigate. You may not reveal after death, and you must reveal to everyone in the thread no revealing to individuals. Good luck, and enjoy the game!

Ichigo

My investigations:

Night one: GH - innocent
Night two: Kommodus - innocent
Night three: Sasaki - innocent
Night four: pevergreen - innocent

A PM-conversation I had with Ichigo:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[QUOTE=Ichigo]

You have been selected as the detective in my mafia game. Your role is to PM me every night phase with someone you want to investigate. You may not reveal after death, and you must reveal to everyone in the thread no revealing to individuals. Good luck, and enjoy the game!

Ichigo

Well, never had the honor of being the detective...

Thank you Ichigo In return, I'll try to let the town lynch you in the next mafia game you participate in

Some questions: 1) do I get the role of the player I investigate (if I am lucky and pick the GF, will I know he is GF, or will you only tell me "guilty" or "not guilty"?, in the latter case, I have an additional question, is the GF "guilty" or not (I knew in capo GF's turned out innocent when investigated); 2) mafia always has two kills? If the two mafioso are dead but GF still alive, the GF can kill?; 3) does the GF have special abilities like investigating or protecting someone from something?

As for my first investigation: it doesn't always have to be Sasaki... so: Investigate : GeneralHankerchief

Ciao,

Andres.

1. No, you don't get there role you only get innocent or guilty. The GF will be innocent if you investigate him, but his henchmen will come up guilty.

2. Yes, that reminds me I forgot to address that in the thread.

3. No, I didn't give the GF any special abilities.

A little tip if you PM you investigation before the mafia PM's who they want to kill, then you will get your investigations back before the kills.

Ichigo

So, my investigations only learned us that Sasaki and pevergreen are not the henchman of the GF.

Anyway, this means at least two of these are mafia:

CF
RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko


Another intresting conversation I had:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I know it's very early, but what do you think? Would this be a good time to reveal?

Well you've investigated two big people Kommo and GH. Why do you ask?

I'm feeling a bit uncomfortable in this detective role. Actually, I'm trying to look a bit scummy, to attract some votes and thus avoiding to get killed by the mafia (i hope they are clever and experienced enough not to kill those who are likely to get lynched), but I'm getting a feeling that I'm beginning to look a bit too suspicious...

When does the voting period stop (and what's that in GMT +1?).

It's clear that I would reveal if I'm about to get lynched let's say 30 minutes before the voting period closes, but if the voting period ends while I'm asleep, I can't do that.

Is there some way for you to reveal my role in case I get lynched? It's obvious I won't reveal until it's 100 % that I'm going to get lynched.

But as for now, it seems like Stig is going to die, so maybe I was just panicking at the time I pm'ed you.

Gah, different timezones suck.

Andres.

Smart move. It'll close in 3 and a half hours.

I doubt you'll get lynched, but if you do get ahead reveal there's a role that might be able to save you from the mafia

If your lynched I'll probably somehow work it into the write-up.

So, apparantly there is/was somebody else with a pro-town role. GH stated firmly that CF was innocent, so maybe GH was the one with the special role. Let's assume GH is 100 % sure about CF, we have these guys left:

RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko

Let's see how rdeče.jabolko responds when there is some real pressure on him:

Vote : rdeče.jabolko

And remember, if we lynch the right one today, the town still has a chance to win this:

Some other things I forgot to mention. If one of the henchmen is killed there will only be one kill afterwards. If both henchmen are dead then there will still be one kill by the GF.

[Warmaster Horus]

What? What happened? Why me? Who could have done this?
GAH!
At least it makes people forget about my stupidity.

[pevergreen]

RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko

Are possible Henchmen,

RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko
pevergreen
Sasaki
are possible GF's

I obviously presume I am innocent, which leaves

RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko
Sasaki

Will put my opinions out after everyone on that list posts.

[HughTower]

Nice reveal, Andres.

On that basis then, rdeče.jabolko should definitely be targeted with a lynch. He's shown himself to be happy to put himself about in his first few Mafia games & the Mafia's victims (until this round) have all been (relatively) experienced & logical players.

On that logical basis, I would make the assumption that BlackAxe & Roadkill are his henchman.

[Caius]

What? What happened? Why me? Who could have done this?
GAH!
At least it makes people forget about my stupidity.

I know It sucks Warmaster, but you were very active.
The mafia needs less discussion, as there is a posibilty they make a mistake.

Andres,I should go for BlackAxe.

But you will be sooner or later dead.The mafia will try to kill you.

Unless you have something useful for say

Vote:BlackAxe

[Warmaster Horus]

For some reason, I don't see who could have wanted me dead... Good luck town! You're gonna need it!

[RoadKill]

@hugh
How could I possibly be a henchmen? This is one of my first mafia games and i doubt I will be picked as a henchmen, besides that fact why would I have been protecting GH when he is obviously innocent? Therefore taking myself off the list rakejia, blackaxe, and countarch have to be possible henchmens therefore I vote Vote: CountArch What do you have to say on your defence?

[Warmaster Horus]

Remember RK that in the Godfather, part 1 (the first to have a GF at the Org, I believe) Gorebag was chosen as a grunt, because it was he was a newbie player.

[RoadKill]

But still if i was a henchmen y would I possibly prtect the innocent?

[BlackAxe3001]

I'm not mafia. I don't know how many times I have to prove it. A freaking Sasaki inquisition and all... pay attention CF.

Vote: rdeče.jabolko

I bet hes the godfather.

RoadKill and CountArach are his henchmen. Roadkill has been almost completely silent the whole game until now, which seems very suspicious. CountArach hasn't said much as of late either. Also suspicious. Roadkills defense is weak. Just because you are a noob doesn't mean you can't be a henchman. Claiming noobness doesn't work as a good defense. You should know that since you watched me try to use it and fail. You are one of the henchmen, it's obvious.

Well, we know that Andres is dead next turn and so will one of the other people who have been proven innocent. That leaves me and those I suspect as henchmen and the gf. Vote smart town! The mafia will leave me alive just to make you think I am mafia. Don't fall for this obvious trickery like I fell for the andres-motep frame attempt. It will only lead to your downfall.

[BlackAxe3001]

But still if i was a henchmen y would I possibly prtect the innocent?

Why? To make yourself look more innocent because you are mafia. It's a simple concept. I can see right through the shroud of mystery you are trying to protect yourself with. Besides, if they are innocent, why do they need to be protected from a lynch. You are obviously a henchman.

[Caius]

I'm not mafia. I don't know how many times I have to prove it. A freaking Sasaki inquisition and all... pay attention CF.

Vote: rdeče.jabolko

I bet hes the godfather.

RoadKill and CountArach are his henchmen. Roadkill has been almost completely silent the whole game until now, which seems very suspicious. CountArach hasn't said much as of late either. Also suspicious. Roadkills defense is weak. Just because you are a noob doesn't mean you can't be a henchman. Claiming noobness doesn't work as a good defense. You should know that since you watched me try to use it and fail. You are one of the henchmen, it's obvious.

Well, we know that Andres is dead next turn and so will one of the other people who have been proven innocent. That leaves me and those I suspect as henchmen and the gf. Vote smart town! The mafia will leave me alive just to make you think I am mafia. Don't fall for this obvious trickery like I fell for the andres-motep frame attempt. It will only lead to your downfall.

Sorry

Unvote:BlackAxe30001
Vote:Abstain

[RoadKill]

BlackAex the offence you have made to me can exactly refer to you, how do we know your not pretending to be innocent and trying to act like a pro-town? Exactly and I do not care if you lynch me, it is just another lynch that is wasted.

[Csargo]

5 too lynch.

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

If only I could vote. Ah well, my personal opinion hints at my origional target CA and, now, RoadKill. RoadKill, was it him, asked if townies received PMs, I'm not sure if it was him, a bad case of RL is overwhelming my .Org time online at the moment. Is that enough to lynch him?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

well balls, 0 for 2.

CF
RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko

I think I will trust GH on cf for now. Roadkill hasn't given us much at all. I was waiting to see if rdece would get killed, he seems to have dropped a few decent posts and then disappeared, hadn't come under suspicion, seems like a likely kill choice.

I believe this is lylo, after the stig mafia VI I want to make sure to look at all the possibilities, so I won't be voting just yet.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

If only I could vote. Ah well, my personal opinion hints at my origional target CA and, now, RoadKill. RoadKill, was it him, asked if townies received PMs, I'm not sure if it was him, a bad case of RL is overwhelming my .Org time online at the moment. Is that enough to lynch him?

Was pevergreen, and he didn't answer when I asked him about it, and said he couldn't find the question when I asked him again.

Neither CA nor pevergreen unvoted Blackaxe after he explained himself. CountArach had just come under suspicion when pever put blackAxe into the lead:

Whos in the tie?

I believe BlackAxe to be the best option for todays lynch.
See the thread for reasons
Vote: BlackAxe

That's one connection, I need to reread and I'll find more.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Right, here's a go through of day 1.

CountA votes Warmaster, saying he should talk.
BlackAxe votes Andres, wicked bad reasoning.
Oldschool votes ignoramus (lurker)
I vote BlackAxe, saying he could be framing
Caius votes Oldschool (I don't understand why)
BlackAxe unvotes
CountA votes CF for hypocrisy
Kommodus votes GBB lurker
CountA votes BlackAxe after my exchange with him
Omanes votes CountA
Dutch guy accuses CountA slightly (of being eager which he is)
Warmaster expresses suspicion of ca
stig votes me

at this point dutch says it's a 4 way tie. Presumably he meant a tie between BlackAxe, CountA, GBB, and me, (forgetting ignoramus), although blackaxe was actually in the lead. Now pever's vote is interesting:

Whos in the tie?

I believe BlackAxe to be the best option for todays lynch.
See the thread for reasons
Vote: BlackAxe

He believe's there is a tie, so his vote is to break the tie. So he must want BlackAxe lynched over someone else. GBB is innocent and I think pever would trust me to defend myself (lol). So he either thought that blackAxe was genuinely suspicious and thought he should be in the lead, or thought he was the best way to protect countA (who had come under the most suspicious besides blackAxe).

Andres votes Hughtower.
CF votes Omanes for his vote on CountA (I would really like GH to say why he thinks CF is innocent, this vote looks bad and omanes was lynched eventually).
Destro votes GH.
Roadkill votes me.
I unvote Blackaxe when he explains himself
GH votes omanes
I vote destro
gbb votes omanes
Kommo votes rdece (for not posting yet)


I would say the pever countA connection is quite interesting. CF would be interesting but the people who put omanes ahead have been killed so it's clear he didn't cause the omanes lynch. rdece and roadkill didn't really post anything.

[scotchedpommes]

I am surprised at the willingness to follow Pever and initiate a bandwagon,
when it looks to me like a possible attempt to immediately deflect
attention from himself, as he too remains a suspect.

Nice reveal, Andres.

On that basis then, rdeče.jabolko should definitely be targeted with a lynch. He's shown himself to be happy to put himself about in his first few Mafia games & the Mafia's victims (until this round) have all been (relatively) experienced & logical players.

On that logical basis, I would make the assumption that BlackAxe & Roadkill are his henchman.

I'm taken aback by this, also. Given that you weren't here for my first few mafia
games this strikes me as a flawed observation. Then, as now, I was busy with
other things away from here; more recently moving out of my previous
accommodation. While I'm not going to go to the lengths Stig did, I will say I
was content in the previous rounds to catch up whenever I came online,
[posting in my regular frontroom thread, yes] and I'm disappointed some of you
would throw away crucial votes at this point.


In light of Pever's initial vote, I feel compelled to vote for him, regardless of
opinions on open retaliation, he is still a candidate for 'scum'.

Vote: Pervegrun

In honour of your unique butchery.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Ok I just *($*& lost my day 2 write up. So I'll do a summary. Not much interesting.

this is amusing:

And his explanation about the detective who must have investigated him at round one, well, it's not something we should trust on,

And good evidence of a genuine claim which isn't needed, because if he were mafia he would have claimed a guilty on someone.

rdece first posts. He has 5 posts this round, and votes for stig. posts are substantial. This doesn't fit usual lurker behavior, but we need his explanation.

CountA votes for Omanes when imo the evidence against stig was overwhelming (GH, Kommo, and me all agreed on him for reference). Then unvotes when he realizes omanes is dead. This could be from a desire not to be on a wagon that he thought was going to be shown to be on an innocent. Need his explanation

Roadkill again has like one post, voting for me. We need more from him and I need to reread that other game with him.

pevergreen seems concerned about the possible lack of kill:

What?

One person died and the other didnt have a name (failed kill?)

Which is interesting. He also doesn't post much and avoids stig wagon. Perhaps he thinks since stig is going to be lynched he doesn't need to put any effort into casting suspicion on anyone.

That's about it for day 2, I'm favoring CA or pever at this point.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am surprised at the willingness to follow Pever and initiate a bandwagon,
when it looks to me like a possible attempt to immediately deflect
attention from himself, as he too remains a suspect.



I'm taken aback by this, also. Given that you weren't here for my first few mafia
games this strikes me as a flawed observation. Then, as now, I was busy with
other things away from here; more recently moving out of my previous
accommodation. While I'm not going to go to the lengths Stig did, I will say I
was content in the previous rounds to catch up whenever I came online,
[posting in my regular frontroom thread, yes] and I'm disappointed some of you
would throw away crucial votes at this point.

They aren't throwing away crucial votes, they are putting pressure on you because you haven't been posting and we have to hear from you.

I'm curious if pevergreen will accept you explanation for your absence.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I would also like pevergreen to account for himself. I haven't seen him on MSn though, so maybe he is away?

This is interesting, he accuses pever but provides an excuse for him in the same breath.

sorry guys, pretty dead after school overnight LAN party and exams.

I am on holidays now, so involvement will go up in a few days.

pever has his excuse.

people vote oldschool, oldschool votes andres.

hey hey, pever posts again right after lynch. He said in a few days involvement would go up, but he posts in a little over a day.

ho, interesting:

Most likely detctive:
Kommo

Which is really funny since Kommo had just been killed, in a surprise move. Vote:pevergreen we need explanations from you on lots of things now.

He then says cf and blackAxe are mafia and I am the GF. We are all still alive but he hasn't voted for any of us. He says rdece is suspicious for being away (hypocrisy).

pever is questioned on his absence, provides a link. Andres points out that he made numerous posts during his claimed absence. pever says that he "get's nothing from the link" when he wouldn't need a link to remember that he posted.

Roadkill has a couple decent posts.

hmm ok we have a pretty decent shot imo.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

In light of Pever's initial vote, I feel compelled to vote for him, regardless of
opinions on open retaliation, he is still a candidate for 'scum'.

Vote: Pervegrun

In honour of your unique butchery.

I see you've added a vote. I agree with you, but would you mind telling me what you think of CountA, roadkill, and cf?

[CountArach]

Vote: RoadKill

Defensive vote.

[Caius]

CF votes Omanes for his vote on CountA (I would really like GH to say why he thinks CF is innocent, this vote looks bad and omanes was lynched eventually).

I voted Omanes because he didnt said nothing.He just voted.

[scotchedpommes]

I see you've added a vote. I agree with you, but would you mind telling me what you think of CountA, roadkill, and cf?

[Joy unbridled.]

CountArach appears to have been erratic, or confused at best. As much as
relentless confrontation may be used to create disruption, CountArach's voting
may serve to do likewise. RoadKill has at times appeared confused himself in
voting behaviour, and is now indicating his feelings of apathy which are clearly
open to interpretation. Caius seems reluctant to commit to a course of action,
[and we seem to be agreeing in numbers that GH was somehow aware of his
innocence] and while that would not immediately concern me if we had more
rounds, he was swayed by BlackAxe extremely easily - I see little reason why
he should be.

[RoadKill]

Sasaki I didn't vote for u.....

[RoadKill]

And By the Way, care to give me a reason, Countarch? HAving a defensive vote against me to get me lynched isn't really a reason you know
EDIT: Alsa Sasaki you like to target me, oldschool, and blackaxe, a lot and the reasons you give are foolish also, why do you noe suspect te other players, those who have played in mafia for a long time?

[pevergreen]

Right.

I can say, that if I was the GF, i probably woul have picked CA.

Answering your question Sasaki:

I didnt get a PM, and i wanted to make sure that the org hadnt eaten it up, so i asked. If i didnt, someone would have. The Host needs to say if townies dont get a PM.

The link andres provided opended a new page, but said it could find nothing. I then followed his instructions and didnt see much.

I said my activity would rise, because i am on holidays. That means it can rise straight away. I had no intention of a bandwagon on rdece, i wanted him to stop his non-posting behaviour.

At the four way tie, i saw an oppurtunity to lynch the person that was most likely scum. You would do that wouldnt you sasaki?

I am happy with rdece's explanation.

Unvote: rdece

Which is really funny since Kommo had just been killed, in a surprise move.

I posted my thoughts on why he was most likely the detective as well. He hadnt posted any results, and at that time, i thought it might cross over with his program, and since he cant reveal after death, stopping him from posting results.


Quote:
What?

One person died and the other didnt have a name (failed kill?)


Which is interesting. He also doesn't post much and avoids stig wagon. Perhaps he thinks since stig is going to be lynched he doesn't need to put any effort into casting suspicion on anyone.


the second kill had no name in it, and after the write up, Ichigo said it was Dutch_Guys kill. I didnt catch on he meant dutch guy was dead, as Ichigo is not in the habit of posting who is alive and who isnt.

I am convinced sasaki is not the GF now, he is acting how i thought he would.

Andres says it leaves these people:
RoadKill
BlackAxe
CountArach
rdeče.jabolko

Taking out rdece, because he is most likely innocent, that leaves what i think are the 3 scum.

People say Roadkill is scum, I can see why, but i still feel Blackaxe is scum as well.

I am open to any suggestions as to who to vote, my analyzing skills arent the greatest.

But for Roadkill's last post, he definately seems the best option.

Vote: Roadkill

After lets say two kills tonight, Andres and someone will probably die. If one kill, then probably Andres. I think i will be left alive to draw votes away from the mafia.



(The edit made the vote bold and i accidently quoted the post above me, i got rid of that as well.)