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    Krusader's Nemesis Member abou's Avatar
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    Default Battle on the river Arius - 209 BC

    Since TA had done a lot of work on this it would be foolish not to make it right away. It will also make a nice break between all the inevitable Roman battles. If you're curious as to what work he has done, reference this post.

    The main reference is from Polybius 10.49. This is a particularly cool battle because we get some insight into Antiochus III's character, whose bravery seems to be unmatched amongst the other Hellenistic rulers; even most soldiers.

    Curiously, where Bibracte was entirely an infantry battle this one is dominated by the cavalry of Seleukeia and Baktria.

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    Cool! I can't wait! BTW when will we see the battle where Mithridates(The Parthian King, not the Pontic King)defeats the Seleucids? Forgot where it was but I read they whooped ass.
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    Default Re: Battle on the river Arius - 209 BC

    If you can give me a specific battle it is all the better, but I am finding that many battles do not give nearly enough specifics. In fact, it seems that unless Polybius wrote it I don't have much to work with. K_Cossak has been asking a lot about Pontus, but the only battle I found with enough to at least point in the right direction for the Mithradatic wars was a battle of Rome against Armenia.

    So yeah, go figure.

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    Default Re: Battle on the river Arius - 209 BC

    The Battle of Chaeronea is good too. We dont know the numbers exactly, but we do know what happened.

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    Default Re: Battle on the river Arius - 209 BC

    So there seems to be a snag with the use of rivers. Since fords can not be added all I can do is raise the ground above the waterline as a substitute; unfortunately, while units can be placed on this raised ground and the engine can actually recognize it as an area that can be crossed, units simply do not want to move fully across the river. However, the battle seems to take place mostly on one side and I dread to think how the AI would handle the pathfinding and so I think it would be fair not to have a river at all as long as everything else is in place.

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    Default Re: Battle on the river Arius - 209 BC

    Maybe put the river just outside of the red line, so it's there, but won't mess up the AI.

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