Irving...I've seen a Shimazu horde, once, but never a Mori. In fact, I've never seen Mori survive at all. It's always either Takeda or Oda taking him out. He's just too poor and has too many threatened provinces.

Soly... Interesting info on the Hojo production. I've used 20 or so shinobi to cause rebellions successfully, thinking that would destroy his infrastructure. Does that work at all?

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Wind fells blossoms, rain
fells steel,yet bamboo bends and drinks