Why are Samnites so awesome?

[antisocialmunky]

What are the 'hidden' stats that make Samnite Spearmen so awesome? From looking at the raw stats that the unit card gives you, they look like arrow fodder with their extra armour but lower defense and attack. It all seems a quite mysterious to me.

[Suraknar]

Probably their mental stats.

[abou]

Their attack rate and lethality, which are factors that never really showed up in Vanilla except when you were desperately waiting for artillery to fire.

[fallen851]

Their attack rate and lethality, which are factors that never really showed up in Vanilla except when you were desperately waiting for artillery to fire.

Yeah, that is true, except the part about the Vanilla. The AI is so stupid it sits there under fire...

[Suraknar]

Their attack rate and lethality, which are factors that never really showed up in Vanilla except when you were desperately waiting for artillery to fire.

Does anyone know which file determines lethality?

[Rilder]

EDU i'd think.

[Quilts]

Does anyone know which file determines lethality?

Apparently it's the last entry in the 'Primary and Secondry Weapon Stats' in the 'Export Description Unit' 'file'. Very confusing as they explain (at the very start of the 'file') what 10 of the 11 entries are for, but completely fail to mention 'Lethality'?

Cheers,

Quilts

[Ancyrean]

Quoting from Arkatreides' excellent trading cards, for example, the lethality of Camillan Hastati is 0.13, Principes of the same era, 0.125.

Does anyone have any idea as to what are the lethality stats for Samnite units, for a comparison?

[Suraknar]

Apparently it's the last entry in the 'Primary and Secondry Weapon Stats' in the 'Export Description Unit' 'file'. Very confusing as they explain (at the very start of the 'file') what 10 of the 11 entries are for, but completely fail to mention 'Lethality'?

Cheers,

Quilts

oki, these values determine the speed of a unit's hits.

Vanilla units more or less have this the same, except a few.

So in EB, we played with the speed and we called that "Lethality" if I understand correctly.

It makes sence...a unit with an attack of 5, hiting 3 times faster than a unit with an attack of 10 does theoretically 15 damage for every 10 damage the other does...it is therefore considered more Lethal.


But, I dont understand the form...

the description is:

Min delay between attacks (in 1/10th of a second)

yet in the stats there is 2 values.

like: stat_pri ..., 25 ,1

in vanilla some units had : stat_pri ..., 25 ,0.73


In EB, the 25 is 0 and the second value is usually very low.

Does someone know exactly what the 2 values stand for?

I am probably wrong here, but could it be that the 1st value is the 1/10ths of a second and the second value is actually a percentage of damage...

[the_handsome_viking]

What are the 'hidden' stats that make Samnite Spearmen so awesome? From looking at the raw stats that the unit card gives you, they look like arrow fodder with their extra armour but lower defense and attack. It all seems a quite mysterious to me.

Realistically speaking, its their combination of fancy clothes and fancy hats.

[antisocialmunky]

Realistically speaking, its their combination of fancy clothes and fancy hats.

Yes, I do concede that they have alot of bling.

or you can just test this out in custom battle (principes vs merc hastati samnite spearmen)

btw, what does "lethality" do?

Its either the probability of inflicting HP damage if the attack penetrates defense OR the amount of damage inflicted to HP if the attack penetrates.