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    Default Re: Drunken off-duty Cop Brutally Assualts Female Bartender

    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    Pretty ugly, but the guy was practically legless and could hardly stand up, let alone do any serious damage to someone.

    Not trying to defend him, but we only got to see little clips of his behaviour, did the bartender do something stupid to provoke him when he was blind drunk and obviously lacking in self control?
    What, a woman gets beat up by a two hundred pound berserk beast and you're asking what she did wrong? Blaming the girl for provoking some poor defenseless guy without self control? Looking for the skirt that was too short?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    What, a woman gets beat up by a two hundred pound berserk beast and you're asking what she did wrong? Blaming the girl for provoking some poor defenseless guy without self control? Looking for the skirt that was too short?
    No, I'm not blaming her, but when someone is blind legless drunk it is wise to employ some tact. Now I thought I saw in some of that footage that she's sort of pushing and shoving at him before he loses his cool. Seems to me that's a very unwise thing to do.

    Obviously the video shows something pretty ugly, I guess my concern was, what do we really know about this cop? Is this typical behaviour from him, or is it just one alcohol-soaked moment of loss of control in what might otherwise be a respectable career? Was he under any particular stress in order to get so very drunk, or is such drunkenness a pattern with him? I mean, it's easy to conclude from this video that the guy is some kind of monster, but how good would any of us look if our worst moment was caught on video?

    They were my initial reactions, but then I guess one has to ask what kind of guy allows himself to get so smashed in the first place, and let's face it, it probably isn't the type of person you want wearing a badge. I think if he was a cop in my town I'd want to see him out of the force, pronto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    Obviously the video shows something pretty ugly, I guess my concern was, what do we really know about this cop? Is this typical behaviour from him, or is it just one alcohol-soaked moment of loss of control in what might otherwise be a respectable career? Was he under any particular stress in order to get so very drunk, or is such drunkenness a pattern with him? I mean, it's easy to conclude from this video that the guy is some kind of monster, but how good would any of us look if our worst moment was caught on video?
    This is Chicago, corrupt sewer of politicians and cops. He could have done this before and had his superiors know about it and still be on the force. He was arrested drunk driving two years before becoming a cop.

    This is, most likely, not the exception to his behavior, but the rule. The only exception is this time a camera caught him.

    I would hope all the cops in the US could say their worst moment is far better than this. In Chicago, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    This is Chicago, corrupt sewer of politicians and cops. He could have done this before and had his superiors know about it and still be on the force. He was arrested drunk driving two years before becoming a cop.

    This is, most likely, not the exception to his behavior, but the rule. The only exception is this time a camera caught him.

    I would hope all the cops in the US could say their worst moment is far better than this. In Chicago, though...

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    Yeah, you're probably right. It's kind of unlikely this guy would be caught doing something like this on video if it wasn't an established pattern of behaviour.

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    he didn'ty know he was being taped.

    and as far as her pushing him:

    a)patrons arent allowed behind the bar without a liquor license
    b)he had already assaulted the customer on the left earlier

    someone should have broken a bottle and shanked him in his fat hamhock neck. you don't treat people like that, period, let alone a petite woman who is just trying to maintain order.
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    someone should have broken a bottle and shanked him in his fat hamhock neck
    Oh yes, let's just murder people who get drunk and behave like a-holes. That will do so much to improve social standards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    he had already assaulted the customer on the left earlier
    So why didn't the bartender just call the cops at that stage? Wouldn't that have been the sensible thing to do?

    Pubs can get sued these days for failing to refuse alcohol to people who have clearly had too much. This guy was practically paralytic, why did the establishment wait so long before refusing to serve him?

    And why was this petite bartender left to handle the guy all by herself? Wasn't there a bouncer, or some other male employees who could have helped her throw him out?

    While the cop was clearly guilty of an assault here, it seems to me he may not have been the only party whose behaviour could be called into question.
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    I see nothing wrong with her behavior.
    He tried to go behind the bar, she tried to stop him which she is suppose to do and he went berserk.
    So nothing that really could be considered to be provoking except for a man who is hostile and aggressive in nature which is something she couldn't know before hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwtype
    Oh yes, let's just murder people who get drunk and behave like a-holes. That will do so much to improve social standards.
    So now, pummeling another person into the ground and stomping on them is just a-hole behavior? And besides, getting shanked doesn't necessarily kill you. I'm in total agreement with MRD here.

    And you know what, I'm betting it definitely would improve social standards.

    This guy was practically paralytic, why did the establishment wait so long before refusing to serve him?
    You're assuming an awful lot to support your view.

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