Round 1: Hannibal vs. Gustavus Adolphus

[KrooK]

Not exactly. You told correctly conditions of casefire. But conditions of peace were different.
After casefire and finishing wars with Tatars/Turkey new polish king
Vladislav IV Wasa decided to finish with that taxes once for ever. Good prepared and really big polish army (30.000 highly skilled veterans) was so dangerous for Sweden (fighting into 30years war) that they canceled taking taxes.

And remember that into some battles Gustavus behave quite bad, I would tell quite cowardless. During one of the battles (I think Battle of Trzcianna) he ran and was very close to being captured. Poles captured his ... belt. Lucky king ran.

I must tell that Gustavus was very good commander but Hannibal was simply better.

[Stig]

Gustavus Adolphus? (ie. Hannibal wins with ease)


And why isn't he jsut called Gustav Adolf. What is he? Some wannabe Roman?

[Innocentius]

Not exactly. You told correctly conditions of casefire. But conditions of peace were different.
After casefire and finishing wars with Tatars/Turkey new polish king
Vladislav IV Wasa decided to finish with that taxes once for ever. Good prepared and really big polish army (30.000 highly skilled veterans) was so dangerous for Sweden (fighting into 30years war) that they canceled taking taxes.

If you suggest that the entire Polish army at the time consisited of 30.000 men then OK, but I find it hard to believe that a country - robbed of its most profitable ports and after years and years of fighting - could muster 30.000 men solely for the purpose of scaring the Swedish off.
The Swedish were already severly weakened by the defeat at Nördlingen and were eager not to get involved in a second war.

And remember that into some battles Gustavus behave quite bad, I would tell quite cowardless. During one of the battles (I think Battle of Trzcianna) he ran and was very close to being captured. Poles captured his ... belt. Lucky king ran.

I don't know what propagand-istic history is being taught in Poland, but that sure is biased. Gustavos Adolphus was a hero and nothing less!
No but seriously, I would be careful to use any records of the "opposite" king doing this and that, most of that is historic propaganda. For what I know about Trzciana, Gustav attempted a counter-attack but was beaten back.

[Incongruous]

Not exactly. You told correctly conditions of casefire. But conditions of peace were different.
After casefire and finishing wars with Tatars/Turkey new polish king
Vladislav IV Wasa decided to finish with that taxes once for ever. Good prepared and really big polish army (30.000 highly skilled veterans) was so dangerous for Sweden (fighting into 30years war) that they canceled taking taxes.

And remember that into some battles Gustavus behave quite bad, I would tell quite cowardless. During one of the battles (I think Battle of Trzcianna) he ran and was very close to being captured. Poles captured his ... belt. Lucky king ran.

I must tell that Gustavus was very good commander but Hannibal was simply better.

Umm, Gistavus was probably one of the bravest leaders in History. However, it is usually wiser for a King to withdraw than be captured, such an event would be disastrous for his nation.