Round 1: Nelson vs. Nimitz

[Marshal Murat]

These two great admirals will lead their fleet to victory.
Which one?

Please vote.

[Grey_Fox]

Nelson. Because.

[CountArach]

Nelson. Because.

Ditto.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Nelson had some great qualities, but his record proves that he was a devil in a sea fight and pretty mediocre at the rest of the combined arms menu.

Nimitz handled the whole package pretty well -- even if he did put a DD in the mud once.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Nimitz. Because.

[InsaneApache]

Nelson had some great qualities, but his record proves that he was a devil in a sea fight and pretty mediocre at the rest of the combined arms menu.

Nimitz handled the whole package pretty well -- even if he did put a DD in the mud once.

That's a tad cruel.

Back OT.

Nelson.

[Grey_Fox]

Nelson had some great qualities, but his record proves that he was a devil in a sea fight and pretty mediocre at the rest of the combined arms menu.

I wouldn't say that, he fought several land actions in South America and the Mediterranean. He successfully stopped the French invasion of Naples, and had the fortitude to exceed his authority when the situation demanded it.

He was a brilliant strategist.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Nelson of course! Nimitz was good, but most generals would have won under his conditions, only with different amounts of losses. Nelson won despite overwhelming odds and did so repeatedly, both a great tactician and an inspirational leader prepared to go first into battle even if it eventually meant his death.

[ShadesWolf]

No contest.

Nelson of course

[KARTLOS]

Come off it, Nelson - no dispute.

He was an exptional tactition and a brave comander who triumphed against the odds on many occasions.

Nimitz was relatively speaking a nobody. nothing he did stands out in the same way and i expect he would be bloody embaressed to be mentioned in the same breath.

[Conradus]

To be honest I had to think before I could remember who Nimitz was, I think that says enough about the man.

[Louis VI the Fat]

To be honest I had to think before I could remember who Nimitz was, I think that says enough about the man.

What!? Nimitz is the most important admiral ever. He single-handedly won the Pacific war for America, avenged the infamy of Pearl Harbor, and made the world save for democracy. The entire free world is deeply indebted to him. God bless him!

That old marauding pirate Horatio on the other hand only ever narrowly won a handful of naval skirmishes with the rearguards of unsuspecting fleets. The old bugger even deserted his men and country by drinking himself to death in panic after a wee bullet bounced off of his shoulder medals.

[InsaneApache]

LOL

[King Kurt]

What!? Nimitz is the most important admiral ever. He single-handedly won the Pacific war for America, avenged the infamy of Pearl Harbor, and made the world save for democracy. The entire free world is deeply indebted to him. God bless him!

That old marauding pirate Horatio on the other hand only ever narrowly won a handful of naval skirmishes with the rearguards of unsuspecting fleets. The old bugger even deserted his men and country by drinking himself to death in panic after a wee bullet bounced off of his shoulder medals.

Over 200 years and still moaning - no that's what I call a grudge!!

Let's face it Frenchie - Nelson stuffed your boys big time - but it is time to move on!!

As for Nimitz - living proof of he who has the most toys wins - even a French admiral could have won with that material advantage..... unless good ole Nelson came along of course!!!!

[Seamus Fermanagh]

...now, now, be fair.

Nimitz's quality as a leader and commander was defined by the decisions and efforts made in 1942 and early 1943. Only from 1944 onward was it, as you assert, a simple question of logistics.

[Pannonian]

Can we have a poll between Horatio Nelson and James Somerville instead? The British, bafflingly, still carp about Nelson and Trafalgar 200 years on, but let's not forget it was Somerville who gave us our last great naval victory against the French.

[Pannonian]

Can we have a poll between Horatio Nelson and James Somerville instead? The British, bafflingly, still carp about Nelson and Trafalgar 200 years on, but let's not forget it was Somerville who gave us our last great naval victory against the French.

Louis isn't biting?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Louis isn't biting?

Why, no. Being a cultured man of standing I am well above such petite bourgeoisie concerns as hurt national pride and petty nationalism.

My sole concern in this thread is to safeguard historical accuracy and thus prevent a rogue buccaneer and a drunk from being mistaken for an important admiral.

[lanky316]

Yeah Nelson was a bit of a rogue and didn't always follow orders on his way up but his results tell us exactly why he'll win this one easily.

[Pannonian]

Yeah Nelson was a bit of a rogue and didn't always follow orders on his way up but his results tell us exactly why he'll win this one easily.

Are the irony mines running short in Cambridgeshire?

[Grey_Fox]

I'm only aware of one order he disobeyed an order, and he was right to - the battle of Copenhagen and the original 'turning a blind eye' incident.

[Fragony]

Nelson.......Nelson....... wasn't he one of englands greatest naval hero's?

hehehe

[Boyar Son]

Nimitz, sorry to Nelson not saying hes crap, he is good. But I still choose Nimitz

[InsaneApache]

*sigh*

[Boyar Son]

Comon I bet most people chose Nelson because he and people here are from England. But I cant blame ya for being a patriot.

Nelson is un screwable

[Marquis of Roland]

screw Nelson and Nimitz, I pick Henry Morgan

[Stig]

heh De Ruyter will just smash some cable and nick their ships, sink the others and win another war for Holland