The Dreaded I Word

[Lemur]

Your link is to an anti-American book by a 'scholar' at some leftist department of a university.

Actually, my first link was to an academic who's doing everything in his power to document what's going on re: the U.S. and torture. Given the secrecy and impenetrability of the current admin, that's a legitimate activity. I don't quite see that his attempt to document equates anti-americanism. If anything, the people who have authorized the torture program are anti-American, because they have betrayed long-held principles of how the U.S.A. conducts itself in a time of war, and they have ceded the moral righteousness of our nation for little gain.

The second link, which you ignored, was to an evangelical congress that believes there is plenty of evidence that this administration is engaging in debasing behavior. My point, to reiterate, was that it's not just Euroweenies and earth-shoe wearers who are angry about this.

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I guess I'm in the middle of a thread derailment. Rabbit, please feel free to respond, but after this round we should continue in PMs or a new thread.