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Interesting, why do you say that?
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
Interesting, why do you say that?
Well, if I'm suspicious then you are just as suspicious using your own logic.Interesting, why do you say that?
Fos: Everyone but me
Can't trust anyone these days....
But who do I think is really suspicous? hm...hm...hm...hm...hm...
Still decding...
Can't trust anyone these days....
But who do I think is really suspicous? hm...hm...hm...hm...hm...
Still decding...
That part was in just, such tomfoolery can be ignored. Why did you say that about BlackAxe having a role?
Originally Posted by Warluster:
Fos: Everyone
Can't trust anyone these days....
But who do I think is really suspicous? hm...hm...hm...hm...hm...
Still decding...
Does everyone include yourself? Self-FoS'ing is scummy.Fos: Everyone
Can't trust anyone these days....
But who do I think is really suspicous? hm...hm...hm...hm...hm...
Still decding...
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
He said he was going to be active.
Why are you voting Roadkill?
Misread his post sorry.He said he was going to be active.
Why are you voting Roadkill?
Just a prompt for him to post.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
That part was in just, such tomfoolery can be ignored. Why did you say that about BlackAxe having a role?
Chat.That part was in just, such tomfoolery can be ignored. Why did you say that about BlackAxe having a role?
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
It seems our mafia are acting fairly independently, those kills don't seem to be chosen for the same reasons. This of course proves my innocence without question.
It seems our mafia are acting fairly independently, those kills don't seem to be chosen for the same reasons. This of course proves my innocence without question.
And don't say "I knew somebody would notice it" and proceed by prosecuting the one who noticed it...
I don't see why a self-invented (and somewhat weird) argument would prove your innocence.
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning:
And don't say "I knew somebody would notice it" and proceed by prosecuting the one who noticed it...
I don't see why a self-invented (and somewhat weird) argument would prove your innocence.
You know that's just crazy enough to work. And don't say "I knew somebody would notice it" and proceed by prosecuting the one who noticed it...
I don't see why a self-invented (and somewhat weird) argument would prove your innocence.
Originally Posted by Kommodus:
However, instead of simply killing villagers, the mafia will inject them with a special solution containing nanites that will attempt to rewire their brains and place them under the control of the Cosa Nuova. Most of the time, this will result in death. However, there will be a few randomly selected “strong-minded villagers” who will survive the process. Upon being injected, these players will not die but will change their alignment – from then on they will play on the side of the Cosa Nuova, and their victory conditions will become those of the Cosa Nuova.
So, BlackAxe might have been a random kill on the one hand and the attack on GH might have been an attempt to convert him, because the mafia wanted an experienced player on their team.However, instead of simply killing villagers, the mafia will inject them with a special solution containing nanites that will attempt to rewire their brains and place them under the control of the Cosa Nuova. Most of the time, this will result in death. However, there will be a few randomly selected “strong-minded villagers” who will survive the process. Upon being injected, these players will not die but will change their alignment – from then on they will play on the side of the Cosa Nuova, and their victory conditions will become those of the Cosa Nuova.
And Sasaki tries to convince us that he is not capable to chose victim A, because it's a good kill choice and victim B, because it would be a good addition to the mafia team.
Originally Posted by Ichigo:
Chat.
So, you knew (or at least assumed) BlackAxe had a role and now he ends up dead...Chat.
Were there any other players around in the chat at that time?
FoS: Ichigo
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning:
So, BlackAxe might have been a random kill on the one hand and the attack on GH might have been an attempt to convert him, because the mafia wanted an experienced player on their team.
What you say here Andres is so plausible that I believe it is exactly the strategy the mafia has chosen. I think we might see similar kills in the following nights. We should be on the lookout for survivors if they are at all mentioned in the kill descriptions. So, BlackAxe might have been a random kill on the one hand and the attack on GH might have been an attempt to convert him, because the mafia wanted an experienced player on their team.
In a balanced game I have no doubts about Kommodus having ‘doctors’ that will save targeted players. These players might get lynched because of this.
In earlier games a player that survives an attack is innocent and hence a resource to the town. In this game however a survivor is more likely a Mafioso. It would be in the town’s interest to lynch all survivors.
GH is innocent and will be a great asset to the town if he continues to play. The same goes for BlackAxe.
If we should follow the suggestion of Andres, we could almost assume that one of the Mafiosi has played a few of our games to want GH on their team. Maybe a former mafia buddy? Ichigo and Myrddraal pops to my mind. Also Discovery1 basically announces that he won’t be playing much; a tactic that has resulted in more than one mafia victory. Why announce it?
Vote:Discovery1 for now…
Many new faces in this game. Are some of you formerly known as org fellars by a different name?
AND YEAH, I got a whole week off work… Easter time and finally some time off to play MAFIA!!!
Vote: Caius
#1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
#1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
Originally Posted by Stig:
Vote: Caius
#1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
#1. Nobody would seriously think a random accusation in the pre-game phase would be continued afterwards. It's more likely the mafia wanted to convert GH, not killing him because he went after a mafia buddy in the pre-game phase.Vote: Caius
#1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
#2. He was just kidding around in the pre-day phase, having fun, I don't see anything suspicious about that. He does it in every game before it starts.
#3. I use invisible mode as well. Ever since Capo or Midgard I think. I used it both as mafia and townie. Even CR uses it, if I'm not mistaken.
#4. Didn't we all want to see the kills so that we could actually start the game? It was being a very, very long night. I was getting impatient as well, since Ichigo's game ended and I was in dire need of an active mafia game.
About #3. I haven't seen Caius using Invisibility before this game. But then that doesn't matter. imo he's suspicious, let him react to this.
Normally he would now vote for me and scream he isn't mafia, let see what he does. I already took him out as mafia twice before, he's easy to spot.
Normally he would now vote for me and scream he isn't mafia, let see what he does. I already took him out as mafia twice before, he's easy to spot.
Originally Posted by pevergreen:
FoS: Ichigo
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
My mother always told me that pointing fingers at someone isn't polite FoS: Ichigo
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
Ichigo, I'd like to know if there was anybody else (who is participating in this game) present during that particular chat conversation and if so, I want to see the reaction of those people. Also, did you pm somebody concerning your thoughts about BlackAxe?
Vote : Ichigo
Don't worry though, just answer my questions and I'll unvote you.
EDIT:@ Kommodus: is it allowed to post chat logs?
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning:
EDIT:@ Kommodus: is it allowed to post chat logs?
I suppose I'll allow this - as long as it's text and not a screen shot.EDIT:@ Kommodus: is it allowed to post chat logs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
In two Cosa Nuova games, I have not managed to survive one night.
Now that my innocence has been assured, I do have my suspects, but I'm not going to reveal them for now until later on.
Andres does make a good point in Response #1, but you wonder if he's just detailing his own strategy.
-edit- It's clear by the kill description that the mafia wanted to convert me. You're forgiven - somewhat. I'm still gonna try my best to take you down though.
In two Cosa Nuova games, I have not managed to survive one night.
Now that my innocence has been assured, I do have my suspects, but I'm not going to reveal them for now until later on.
Andres does make a good point in Response #1, but you wonder if he's just detailing his own strategy.
-edit- It's clear by the kill description that the mafia wanted to convert me. You're forgiven - somewhat. I'm still gonna try my best to take you down though.
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane:
What you say here Andres is so plausible that I believe it is exactly the strategy the mafia has chosen. I think we might see similar kills in the following nights. We should be on the lookout for survivors if they are at all mentioned in the kill descriptions.
In a balanced game I have no doubts about Kommodus having ‘doctors’ that will save targeted players. These players might get lynched because of this.
In earlier games a player that survives an attack is innocent and hence a resource to the town. In this game however a survivor is more likely a Mafioso. It would be in the town’s interest to lynch all survivors.
GH is innocent and will be a great asset to the town if he continues to play. The same goes for BlackAxe.
If we should follow the suggestion of Andres, we could almost assume that one of the Mafiosi has played a few of our games to want GH on their team. Maybe a former mafia buddy? Ichigo and Myrddraal pops to my mind. Also Discovery1 basically announces that he won’t be playing much; a tactic that has resulted in more than one mafia victory. Why announce it?
Vote:Discovery1 for now…
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Many new faces in this game. Are some of you formerly known as org fellars by a different name?
AND YEAH, I got a whole week off work… Easter time and finally some time off to play MAFIA!!!
Thanks for the advice, this is my first mafia game, so I'm still a little new to the whole thing. I liked the reasoning you stated, it seemed solid. However, you seem to know a lot about it, so, by your own reasoning, you're kind of incriminating yourself. However, I don't think any half-smart mafia would do so. What you say here Andres is so plausible that I believe it is exactly the strategy the mafia has chosen. I think we might see similar kills in the following nights. We should be on the lookout for survivors if they are at all mentioned in the kill descriptions.
In a balanced game I have no doubts about Kommodus having ‘doctors’ that will save targeted players. These players might get lynched because of this.
In earlier games a player that survives an attack is innocent and hence a resource to the town. In this game however a survivor is more likely a Mafioso. It would be in the town’s interest to lynch all survivors.
GH is innocent and will be a great asset to the town if he continues to play. The same goes for BlackAxe.
If we should follow the suggestion of Andres, we could almost assume that one of the Mafiosi has played a few of our games to want GH on their team. Maybe a former mafia buddy? Ichigo and Myrddraal pops to my mind. Also Discovery1 basically announces that he won’t be playing much; a tactic that has resulted in more than one mafia victory. Why announce it?
Vote:Discovery1 for now…
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Many new faces in this game. Are some of you formerly known as org fellars by a different name?
AND YEAH, I got a whole week off work… Easter time and finally some time off to play MAFIA!!!
Vote: Myrddraal
Originally Posted by :
Vote: Caius
I go to school and when i come back i have to deal with thisVote: Caius
Originally Posted by Stig Reasons:
#1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
1.Or a vote that cant go to you #1. GH got killed, while he went after Caius. We all know it's good to safe GH for later on as he draws about 1 vote per day onto him. A vote which can't go to you.
#2. He labelled all sorts of people as mafia before the start.
#3. He said he has been invisible for a long time, but I believe I checked him in mafia IV or so, to see if he really was gone as he said.
#4. he's really wanted to see the kills.
2.I was kidding, everyone did that thing too.
3-Liar. I changed to invisible in Midgard/Capo de Tutti Capi
4.Who not?
Vote:abstain
Because if I vote for you, you will came with a OMG OMG OMG!Bandwagon!.
Originally Posted by :
Normally he would now vote for me and scream he isn't mafia, let see what he does. I already took him out as mafia twice before, he's easy to spot.
Easy Lynch huh?Normally he would now vote for me and scream he isn't mafia, let see what he does. I already took him out as mafia twice before, he's easy to spot.
Sure, thats your way to win.
I see your behaivour very suspechous.
Originally Posted by :
Because if I vote for you, you will came with a OMG OMG OMG!Bandwagon!.
That would be very hard as it is no bandwagonBecause if I vote for you, you will came with a OMG OMG OMG!Bandwagon!.
Originally Posted by :
suspechous
oh yes indeedsuspechous
Do you know what a conditional is
I said IF
I said IF
Originally Posted by :
Because if I vote for you, you will came with a OMG OMG OMG!Bandwagon!.
Because if I vote for you, you will came with a OMG OMG OMG!Bandwagon!.
Vote:Stig
Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius:
Do you know what a conditional is
I said IF
It doesn't matter, bandwagoning is something completely differentDo you know what a conditional is
I said IF
And any reason Sasaki, or are you just annoying me?
Or will you say that I post more often then in Ichigo's game?
Yes stig you are posting far more than usual. It is quite off your usual behavior.
*summons bandwagon*
*summons bandwagon*
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning:
My mother always told me that pointing fingers at someone isn't polite
Ichigo, I'd like to know if there was anybody else (who is participating in this game) present during that particular chat conversation and if so, I want to see the reaction of those people. Also, did you pm somebody concerning your thoughts about BlackAxe?
Vote : Ichigo
Don't worry though, just answer my questions and I'll unvote you.
EDIT:@ Kommodus: is it allowed to post chat logs?
Disco. No. I don't have the chatlog, but Disco might. I couldn't copy and paste it from IRC for some reason. One vote isn't something that I'm going to worry about Andres. My mother always told me that pointing fingers at someone isn't polite
Ichigo, I'd like to know if there was anybody else (who is participating in this game) present during that particular chat conversation and if so, I want to see the reaction of those people. Also, did you pm somebody concerning your thoughts about BlackAxe?
Vote : Ichigo
Don't worry though, just answer my questions and I'll unvote you.
EDIT:@ Kommodus: is it allowed to post chat logs?
Originally Posted by pever:
FoS: Ichigo
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
So for telling you something that I learned in the chat, that makes me suspicious?FoS: Ichigo
For the chat comment. Puts suspicion on you.
@CF:You can't abstain it's in the rules.
Originally Posted by Sasaki:
Yes stig you are posting far more than usual. It is quite off your usual behavior.
*summons bandwagon*
No bandwagon smilie? Yes stig you are posting far more than usual. It is quite off your usual behavior.
*summons bandwagon*
Originally Posted by Ichigo:
Disco. No. I don't have the chatlog, but Disco might. I couldn't copy and paste it from IRC for some reason. One vote isn't something that I'm going to worry about Andres.
Question answered in a satisfying way.Disco. No. I don't have the chatlog, but Disco might. I couldn't copy and paste it from IRC for some reason. One vote isn't something that I'm going to worry about Andres.
Unvote : Ichigo
I'm not going to vote Disco yet, since he announced he doesn't have much time, but I would like to hear his version of Ichigo's story and, if possible, a copy of the chatlog.
Ichigo, in previous games, you seemed to always keep a copy somewhere of mafia related chats. What exactly happened that you couldn't copy it?
Vote : Xehh II
The game started my friend. Now, you "wondered" why you didn't get a pm. Was that a lousy tactic to draw away suspicion since a mafioso off course would have known the game begun...
Anyway, would you like to give your thoughts on what happened so far yet?
Originally Posted by Andres:
Question answered in a satisfying way.
Unvote : Ichigo
I'm not going to vote Disco yet, since he announced he doesn't have much time, but I would like to hear his version of Ichigo's story and, if possible, a copy of the chatlog.
Ichigo, in previous games, you seemed to always keep a copy somewhere of mafia related chats. What exactly happened that you couldn't copy it?
Question answered in a satisfying way.
Unvote : Ichigo
I'm not going to vote Disco yet, since he announced he doesn't have much time, but I would like to hear his version of Ichigo's story and, if possible, a copy of the chatlog.
Ichigo, in previous games, you seemed to always keep a copy somewhere of mafia related chats. What exactly happened that you couldn't copy it?
I've never done that
If I'm in the chat and I could copy and paste it then yes I would, but I don't know how you copy and paste from IRC. I can't highlight the text and right click copy. Doesn't work. IIRC Disco sometimes keeps copies of chat conversations I'll have to ask him when he shows up.
Originally Posted by Ichigo:
I've never done that
You did in Midgard.I've never done that
But I'll wait for Disco's version.
Sasaki, why did you vote Stig? Posting more than usual isn't necessarliy scummy, especially after seeing what happened in Ichigo's last game where the town lost because of a serious lack of activity on the town's behalf...
And what about my comments on your behaviour in posts #188 and #190?
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