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Thread: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova [Concluded]
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Sasaki Kojiro 06:08 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko:
Now, let's crucify people for throw-away comments, Sasaki.
Who said anything about crucifying anyone? You and me seem to be having communication issues...

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scotchedpommes 06:16 04-05-2007
Surely the irritation was sufficient reason, no?
Consider it a suggestion, then.

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sapi 06:28 04-05-2007
Okay

My notes on the thread so far:

The original kill
- I buy the explanation that GH was an attempted conversion
- Was BlackAxe targeted because he had a role?
- If so, how did they find out (more later)?

Discussion
- A lot of discussion by Ichigo and Sasaki, yet nothing out of the normal
- CA talks a lot and says nothing

The only suspicious person so far is Ichigo in the BlackAxe issue.

Accepting that BA is innocent gives his accusation a bit more weight; but if I'm reading this right and he revealed in IRC why haven't the logs been posted?

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Sasaki Kojiro 06:31 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by rdeče.jabolko:


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Csargo 06:36 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by :
The only suspicious person so far is Ichigo in the BlackAxe issue.
I've already explained my side of the story.



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sapi 08:17 04-05-2007
I'm sure you dont' mean that pic to be read as you being a rabid oriental out to kill white men...

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CountArach 08:19 04-05-2007
Or at least we can hope he isn't...

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Killfr3nzy 08:20 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by :
I'm sure you dont' mean that pic to be read as you being a rabid oriental out to kill white men...
More specificly, wo-men.

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pevergreen 09:01 04-05-2007
So Killfrenzy, whats your uptake so far?

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Killfr3nzy 11:42 04-05-2007
Well Ichigo and Dicovery could be the mafia, as they were the only ones in chat with blackaxe, disco says he's not gonna be able to post as often, only shows up to defend Ichi and bandwagon a townie.
But that's probably wrong if the chat took place after. >.<
How many Cosa Nuova are there? I thought there were suppossed to be three, but there were only two kills/attempted converts. I'ma go check and see how many there where sposed to be now.
EDIT;
Yeah, there's three CN's.
Originally Posted by :
There will be a total of three Cosa Nuova operatives (Mafiosi).
So that means either;
1. One didn't send in a PM, so is therefore absent.
2. Two guys 'buddied up' to get someone, which must mean it would increase thier chances to convert.
3. Kommodus only actualy created two CN.
4. One of the attempts succeded.
5. Something else that I can't think of right now.

Meybe we should lynch some of those that haven't been online in a while?

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pevergreen 11:48 04-05-2007
2 kills no matter how many.

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Killfr3nzy 12:07 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Kommodus:
There will be no description of an attack when a player is converted, so you'll have no idea.
Ah crap, can't believe it took me this long to work out that there's a new CN. >.<
I can't remember, and can't be screwed looking right now; Do mini-CN's have the conversion ability?

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Andres 12:21 04-05-2007
Why does nobody ever bothers to read the rules...

Originally Posted by Kommodus:

There will be two or three Cosa Nuova operatives (Mafiosi), depending on how many people sign up. They will be randomly selected. Each night they will be able to target two villagers no matter how many remain.
*sigh*

That's 250,00 € please. You pay cash or by creditcard?

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sapi 12:25 04-05-2007
Wouldn't it be very obvious that someone got converted if there was only one kill recorded?

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pevergreen 12:30 04-05-2007
Maybe. But we wouldnt know who.

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Sigurd 12:47 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by sapi:
Wouldn't it be very obvious that someone got converted if there was only one kill recorded?
We'll see if the Mafia dare kill only one to fool us.

Considering the new information that Kommodus brought forth we should assume that foiled attempts = innocent player. That is; IF there are any doctor roles in this game.

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Killfr3nzy 13:03 04-05-2007
@Sigurd - I don't think they actualy get to choose if the person dies or not, they just inject them and the person either dies or gets converted.
@Andres and everyone else smart enough to remember that part of the rules - Gah, my bad, and thanks for the reminder.

Question - Would foiled attempts be shown? It would be a free showing of an innocent player, which might decrease the drama/suspense a bit.

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Andres 13:27 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Killfr3nzy:
@Andres and everyone else smart enough to remember that part of the rules - Gah, my bad, and thanks for the reminder.
You're welcome. Just don't forget to pay the bill. Off course, this post adds an additional fee of 50,00 €, so it's now 300,00 €. Cash or creditcard? Just send me a pm (+50,00 €) to work out the details of your payment.

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pevergreen 13:33 04-05-2007
We are in Australia.

He doesnt even have a job!

Back to the game please

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Sigurd 13:43 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Killfr3nzy:
@Sigurd - I don't think they actualy get to choose if the person dies or not, they just inject them and the person either dies or gets converted.
What I meant to say was: If the Mafiosi choose to target only one player one night, it would seem like they have successfully converted one as there will be only one kill that night.
This would be a tactic to hide their numbers. Every night there is only one or no kill description we have to assume that the mafia has increased in numbers.

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pevergreen 13:52 04-05-2007
This game is sounding better and better

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seireikhaan 13:53 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane:
What I meant to say was: If the Mafiosi choose to target only one player one night, it would seem like they have successfully converted one as there will be only one kill that night.
This would be a tactic to hide their numbers. Every night there is only one or no kill description we have to assume that the mafia has increased in numbers.
That could complicate things. Of course, I have to wonder if you may have just given the mafia the idea to do just that. Perhaps they hadn't thought of it, and you may have just given them another tool.(although I'll presume you did so accidentally, for now)

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sapi 13:56 04-05-2007
Better that we know and can work around it than otherwise

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pevergreen 13:57 04-05-2007
You always presume the mafia has experience. They would have thought of it.

Even if he sigurd was mafia, he wouldnt need to post that. He would probably be more careful. But that leads to wifom.

He stated facts, lets leave it at that.

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seireikhaan 14:05 04-05-2007
Alright. I was just saying, I don't like giving an opponent any extra possibilities. And, as I said, I was not insinuating that Sigurd was mafia, I was just saying to be careful what you say.

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pevergreen 14:14 04-05-2007
Thats a mafia way of playing. You dont have anything to hide when your a normal townie....

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Kommodus 14:47 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Kommodus:
There will be two or three Cosa Nuova operatives (Mafiosi), depending on how many people sign up. They will be randomly selected. Each night they will be able to target two villagers no matter how many remain.
I'm actually making a slight change to this rule: if the mafia are reduced to one member in total, they'll only get one attack per night.

This doesn't help the town much, though, since as has already been pointed out, there are many reasons why you might see only one attack description.

Just felt I should point that out instead of just changing things up without telling anyone...



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Sasaki Kojiro 15:25 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane:
What I meant to say was: If the Mafiosi choose to target only one player one night, it would seem like they have successfully converted one as there will be only one kill that night.
This would be a tactic to hide their numbers. Every night there is only one or no kill description we have to assume that the mafia has increased in numbers.
I can see that wagon coming now. "Oh look, there was only one kill, I bet they tried to convert Sasaki and succeeded!"

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Andres 15:35 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
I can see that wagon coming now. "Oh look, there was only one kill, I bet they tried to convert Sasaki and succeeded!"
Why are you defending yourself against an accusation that is yet to be made?

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scotchedpommes 16:45 04-05-2007
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane:
What I meant to say was: If the Mafiosi choose to target only one player one night, it would seem like they have successfully converted one as there will be only one kill that night.
This would be a tactic to hide their numbers. Every night there is only one or no kill description we have to assume that the mafia has increased in numbers.
I could envisage this tactic being used at a later stage in proceedings, but
wouldn't it be in their interest this early to try and convert as many as possible?

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