is M2TW kind of crippled?

**Csargo** · 03-27-2007, 22:23

Yes, let's add sea battles so then people can have more things to complain about. This has been said for a long time now, adding sea battle, and I doubt that CA would ever even try doing that.

**Traffik** · 03-27-2007, 22:47

I would think in a future total war installment that relied on naval battles more than land they would add such an engine (not to say that navies were not crucial in medieval and ancient times), but a lack of sea battles in my opinion doesn't really detract from the experience of the game. Hell, I'd probably end up autoresolving the naval battles most of the time anyways.

**HoreTore** · 03-27-2007, 23:39

Seriously. Sea battles with galleys isn't very exciting, unless of course they choose to make it "fantasy". As someone said last time this subject came up, you "would have all the fun of selecting your army, clicking on the enemy fleet and wait".

I don't think it justifies all the effort that would have to be put in the game to enable. It would take lots of work, with little gain. However, what I would like to see, are more tactical variation on the sea battles we have now. Ships with pro's and cons, instead of the one ship per level we have now. That would make it more fun, with little effort.

Oh, and lowering their cost so a navy is a viable option.

Perhaps also enabling transport ships...

**CamelGunner** · 03-27-2007, 23:46

My gripe with sea battles as they are now is that when I have like 8 holks, gun holks, etc. (or equivalent) going against 3 dinky cogs, I might sink 1, then they run and I have to chase them all over the sea.

My idea would be that overwhelming numbers (say 4 to 1 advantage) should sink the enemy fleet (factoring in quality of the ships of course).

**Frederick_I_Barbarossa** · 03-28-2007, 01:32

Originally Posted by CamelGunner

My gripe with sea battles as they are now is that when I have like 8 holks, gun holks, etc. (or equivalent) going against 3 dinky cogs, I might sink 1, then they run and I have to chase them all over the sea.

My idea would be that overwhelming numbers (say 4 to 1 advantage) should sink the enemy fleet (factoring in quality of the ships of course).

Let me remind you that the Drake's English fleet that destroyed the Spanish Armada was inferior to their Spanish counterpart in both quality (size, # of guns, etc.) and quantity.

**pike master** · 03-28-2007, 01:49

crippled? more like incapacitated or decapititated!

**TevashSzat** · 03-28-2007, 02:41

I can picture battles now. You enter battlefield, select all of your ships, click on the enemy and just wait. After gunpowder, things would get even more boring since you'll have to carefully turn all of your ships sides towards the enemy and hope you don't get friendly casualties. Naval battles are never that fun except for with modern ships

**avatar** · 03-27-2007, 23:51

I am glad there are not intricate sea battles. Trying to get in close enough to throw grappling hooks or ram would be a tedious task; then the actual boarding attack/defense, putting out fires, ... no thanks.

**IrishArmenian** · 03-28-2007, 01:15

I'd rather CA has a well polished full game then tack on naval battles. So, I do not want naval battles until the game has reached its highest potential.