Latest info on M2 add-on

[Xtiaan72]

THIS IS INFO FROM ANOTHER FORUM I THOUGHT SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN:


The Addon will contain 4 Campaigns:

Britain: With England, Wales, Scottland,Norway, Ireland.

Crusade: Two Alliances vs. Each other: Jerusalem + Antiochia vs Egypt, Byzans,Turks and all together vs. Mongols

New World: Azteks, Maya, Apache,Tarasken, Chichimeken, Tlaxkalteken and Spanish Settlers under Cortes

East Europe: With German Knights, Poland, Lithuania, Danmark, Nowogrod

- They also added "Special abilities" for the historical persons in the 4 campaigns:
--> Richard I. can rally fleeing troups with the "Heart of the Lion" -talent.
--> Emperor Manuel of Byzanz can set confusion in the enemy lines (the enemy units will fight with each other) with his "Byzantine politic"-talent.

- The campaings have different targets and a different way of playing.
--> In the Eastern, the religion is more important (because of unrest and unit development -> you can only recruit teutonic knights in a catholic area).
--> In the New-World you have, if you play the spanish, only few Units at the start. So you have to look for alliances and trading routes. Maybe even find nativ american alliances, to recruit native units. You also need to become strong to fight the french and english, who will apear later in the new world. If you start as a native american fraction you also can have an alliance with the spanish, to get more advanced units. You also have to take care with the wars against the other native american fractions. Don't be to weak when more of the europeans arrive.


- Prestige points (at least in the new world campaign). For successfull missions or lucrative trading routes, you earn prestige and rise in rank. For each rank you get money and new unlocked units. If you lose battles or missions, your prestige and rank will also sink.
- More units on a battlefield.
- You can build Forts with water around it.... keep their position and which you also can conquer and use for your fraction.
- More + different mission targets: A noble man apears and asks for your help in a combat. If you are successfull, your reward will depend to how you won (how many you have killed).
- In the Britain szenario you can make -as an enemy of England- an alliance with renegate(?) english aristocrats. They ask for your help, to conquer a town. If you give the town after the victory to them, they will found a new anti-english fraction "Allianz der Barone"!


Sorry for the bad spelling....but i am reading and trying to remember the english translation ;)!

It is done to 70% and will apear in the 2nd quater of this year!

[fallen851]

Haha, considering that M2TW isn't even done yet and not totally moddable, when they say the add-on is 70% done, they really mean 30%.

[NeoSpartan]

WTF???????????????????????

That update sounds like Dungeos and Dragons, or Warcraft 3 with spells and s**t. Oh and don't get me started on history.........



All the more reason to Stick to EB and get M2TW once EB2 comes out.

[Rilder]

- You can build Forts with water around it.... keep their position and which you also can conquer and use for your fraction.

I know you said bad spelling but.... so the add on is gonna be based around math?, No thanks

Btw shouldn't this be in the m2tw forum?

[Tuuvi]

Is it a patch or an expansion?

[Xtiaan72]

I know you said bad spelling but.... so the add on is gonna be based around math?, No thanks

Btw shouldn't this be in the m2tw forum?

No man, I pasted this from another forum. Apparently it's a translation from a German magazine which might explain the text...


I am curious about this hot-seat feature though...


Posted it here because I am more curious about peoples opinions here than elsewhere

[Dayve]

Well, no offense to the makers, but apart from being able to team up with English aristocrats to overthrow the king and stuff, it looks crap.

[The Celtic Viking]

Emperor Manuel of Byzanz can set confusion in the enemy lines (the enemy units will fight with each other) with his "Byzantine politic"-talent.

Wololo...

If my opinion of CA took a serious dent with RTW, it's being raped and ********* now.

[NagatsukaShumi]

Well, no offense to the makers, but apart from being able to team up with English aristocrats to overthrow the king and stuff, it looks crap.

Look at it from a modders point of view, 4 seperate campaigns means that it will finally be possible to create "provincial" campaigns away from the main game, EB II could there for, hypothetically, have a main campaign, a "Ceasar's Campaign in Gaul", a "Sucessor States Campaign" etc etc.

Depending on the modability of these leaders abilities, EB could well use them to do something rather interesting as I am sure they are inventive enough to do so.

All faction slots should be filled by factions, therefor making it slightly easier for a project to come along and mod them.

Prestige is interesting and makes you more than a mere player, raising in rank for good deeds tro the "Empire", I imagine that can be made into an interesting system making seem more like say Consul of Rome or whatever equivalent rank there is.

If you think the add on itself will be crap, fair do's, but personally looking at it from a modification side, it opens up some interest corridors that I am sure EB will exploit to the full when they eventually convert to the MTWII engine.

[JeffBag]

--> Richard I. can rally fleeing troups with the "Heart of the Lion" -talent.
--> Emperor Manuel of Byzanz can set confusion in the enemy lines (the enemy units will fight with each other) with his "Byzantine politic"-talent.

Sorry, but what is this? Byzantine Politics? Diablo II's Necromancer's Confuse, Empires: DotMW's Propaganda, Red Alert II: Yuri's Revenge's Chaos Drone, Command and Conquer III's Hallucinogenic grenades. Seriously, this is getting totally ridiculous.

By the next Total War game there should be AOE's converting priests in the game, AOM's myth units, and Warcraft III's hero units.

[hoom]

Nonono, its based on the Dune 2 Deviator

[Brightblade]

omg, WOLOLO!! that reminds me of AOE, I think it was.. and some unit in this game, funniest sound ever. I need to have that as a messenger alert so my parents can kill me.

[Birka Viking]

Wololo............lol.................

[The Celtic Viking]

omg, WOLOLO!! that reminds me of AOE, I think it was.. and some unit in this game, funniest sound ever. I need to have that as a messenger alert so my parents can kill me.

Yes, it was Age of Empires. The priest said so every time he converted an enemy soldier, which is how I got to think about it. It could also heal friendly units, so that answers a question someone else posted in the other thread: Manuel of Byzanz will be the healing unit, too.

Seriously all of this pessimistic crap is getting ridiculous.
TW is not going to be Warcraft 3 for christs sake.

Eh, if we can't have fun playing the game, let us at least have fun whining about it.

[Shigawire]

I wonder where AOE got it from, since it's a genuine Gallic utterance.

charge = (Unintelligible roar/shout) - WOH-loh-loh! x3 (drag out the final 'loh') - Ay-EE bazb! (drag out the 'ee')

[DaCrAzYmOfO]

omg, WOLOLO!! that reminds me of AOE, I think it was.. and some unit in this game, funniest sound ever. I need to have that as a messenger alert so my parents can kill me.

"HIYO WOLO LO WOLO LO! HIYO WOLOLO!"

Oh dear lord....those priests...were my nightmares...AOE would mass them...ugh Lose entire armies against the bastards...and then the super speed cheat >:(...ARGH :P..yeah i used it but they used it to an even bigger extent...damned crazy priests!

[Satyros]

@Anthony , friend , you do of course realize that the " setting" you describe is actually about 875412871254875124871524812754124,6 times better than the one we played in VI , don't you ?

Who will make this mod ?

On second thought :

Who will fix the diplomacy in this game * edit - EB?

It's the only thing that seriously spoils the great experience of EB ( for me ).

But it would be fine by me if someone could make an accurate mod of VI in the vein of EB , even with the same old ( non existent ) diplomacy .

Who doesn't love the stereotypical , bloodthirsty , horned (ok ok I know , I'm just trying to provoke you here , it will get things started maybe ) Vikings ?

Great info m8 , thanks a lot .

Sorry for the off topic comment fellas .

Satyros

[Shigawire]

Nonono, its based on the Dune 2 Deviator

Most def.

omg, WOLOLO!! that reminds me of AOE, I think it was.. and some unit in this game, funniest sound ever. I need to have that as a messenger alert so my parents can kill me.

Glad you liked it. The voice actor King_Azzole also especially likes this one.

[Brightblade]

My god, seriously people let's lay off the hate bandwagon here. Its one thing to poke fun or two it's another to cry havoc and let loose the dogs of omfgwtfbbq.

We all are quite aware we like history, if CA didn't bother to make the games in the first place we wouldn't have EB... or EB2 for that matter. Warcraft 3, C&C3 are all great games in their own right and I enjoyed every single CnC and WC game very much... just because they aren't uber realistic doesn't mean it's boring... EB is a great game based on history, none of the other RTS claim that to be the case.. and we already know CA isnt historically accurate in its games, and they cater to audiences that aren't as soupnazi about history as we are.

live and let live, and buy the game becuase you know you will, for EB2..

cheers

[Anthony]

Well, 'wololo' is pretty long lasting. The Irish used it in medieval battle to open a charge sometimes, as it was rythmic and could could help keep step. I should imagine that's not so hard to find. But seems weird a priest would say it, unless it's coincidence and they just wanted a sound that's nice and rythmic.

[Kralizec]

It turns out the Papacy will have the conversion ability as well:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[CaesarAugustus]

--> Emperor Manuel of Byzanz can set confusion in the enemy lines (the enemy units will fight with each other) with his "Byzantine politic"-talent

W. T. F. ! ? ! ? ! ? !

[Boyar Son]

WTF is this a patch!?!?!?!

I'm so uninformed, what is this I'm so confused

And the websites that let you download the patches for MTW2 are CRAP.

EDIT: or its the way the patch is installed.

[Wolfman]

I am playing M2TW with Dues Lo Vult 2.1 wich has Burreks skins, Titles, so on and am having a pretty good campaign but am anticipating EB2 with great relish. I don't consider M2TW to be crap. It's not as good as EB is but its not crap. In my opinion crap is RTW without EB(shudders from frightful images of cartoon men, half naked Conan barbarians who don't have good hygeine, screeching women, battlefield druids, gladiators, arcani, and 26th dynasty egyptians.)

[CaesarAugustus]

With the implementation of fantasy powers like that of the Byzantine Emperor's, the battles in M2TW and future TW games will be just another un-realistic, crappy RTS.

Fenring: Particulary this one. I hope, but it doesn't seem very likely, that it's a strat map ability - i.e. convince an army to turn on its comrades before a battle, similar to bribe.

I hope so too, perhaps as soon as the battle starts the units are put under the Byz player's control and wreak havoc in enemy lines.

[KSEG]

Seriously all of this pessimistic crap is getting ridiculous.
TW is not going to be Warcraft 3 for christs sake.

[Anthony]

I am playing M2TW with Dues Lo Vult 2.1 wich has Burreks skins, Titles, so on and am having a pretty good campaign but am anticipating EB2 with great relish. I don't consider M2TW to be crap. It's not as good as EB is but its not crap. In my opinion crap is RTW without EB(shudders from frightful images of cartoon men, half naked Conan barbarians who don't have good hygeine, screeching women, battlefield druids, gladiators, arcani, and 26th dynasty egyptians.)

Well, we do have 'druids' planned, but they'd be more realistic. Mind they'd be very high morale, wealthy, and well-equipped men. But, they'd not be the silly CA druids, but more realistic druids who did sometimes fight, most notably at Ynys Mon (Anglesy), against the Romans. They'd be extremely well-motivated, and will raise allied morale, and lower enemy morale (the Romans and other Celts and such were TERRIFIED of fighting druids, since they were holymen of the culture), but they won't be near as good in combat strength as a real champion, considering they don't regularly fight; their combat training is typically more 'how can you defend yourself if needed' as opposed to 'you need to go fight', which is a big difference.

[kalkwerk]

According to gamestar hotseat will only be with auto-resolve battles.