Latest info on M2 add-on

**Boyar Son** · 03-29-2007, 00:53

WTF is this a patch!?!?!?!

I'm so uninformed, what is this I'm so confused

And the websites that let you download the patches for MTW2 are CRAP.

EDIT: or its the way the patch is installed.

**Wolfman** · 03-29-2007, 01:19

I am playing M2TW with Dues Lo Vult 2.1 wich has Burreks skins, Titles, so on and am having a pretty good campaign but am anticipating EB2 with great relish. I don't consider M2TW to be crap. It's not as good as EB is but its not crap. In my opinion crap is RTW without EB(shudders from frightful images of cartoon men, half naked Conan barbarians who don't have good hygeine, screeching women, battlefield druids, gladiators, arcani, and 26th dynasty egyptians.)

**CaesarAugustus** · 03-29-2007, 01:29

With the implementation of fantasy powers like that of the Byzantine Emperor's, the battles in M2TW and future TW games will be just another un-realistic, crappy RTS.

Fenring: Particulary this one. I hope, but it doesn't seem very likely, that it's a strat map ability - i.e. convince an army to turn on its comrades before a battle, similar to bribe.

I hope so too, perhaps as soon as the battle starts the units are put under the Byz player's control and wreak havoc in enemy lines.

**KSEG** · 03-29-2007, 02:28

Seriously all of this pessimistic crap is getting ridiculous.
TW is not going to be Warcraft 3 for christs sake.

**Rilder** · 03-29-2007, 03:11

Originally Posted by KSEG

Seriously all of this pessimistic crap is getting ridiculous.
TW is not going to be Warcraft 3 for christs sake.

Eh you know how people are, an annoying bug or some feature they don't like and they blow it out of proportion, m2tw is a fun game, though I do prefer EB for the time frame.

**Cataphract_Of_The_City** · 03-31-2007, 17:26

The "poltics" thing would be quite nice if you can tie it with the authority of the commander. It would lead to some very Manzikert-esque battles.

**Anthony** · 03-29-2007, 13:57

Originally Posted by Wolfman25

I am playing M2TW with Dues Lo Vult 2.1 wich has Burreks skins, Titles, so on and am having a pretty good campaign but am anticipating EB2 with great relish. I don't consider M2TW to be crap. It's not as good as EB is but its not crap. In my opinion crap is RTW without EB(shudders from frightful images of cartoon men, half naked Conan barbarians who don't have good hygeine, screeching women, battlefield druids, gladiators, arcani, and 26th dynasty egyptians.)

Well, we do have 'druids' planned, but they'd be more realistic. Mind they'd be very high morale, wealthy, and well-equipped men. But, they'd not be the silly CA druids, but more realistic druids who did sometimes fight, most notably at Ynys Mon (Anglesy), against the Romans. They'd be extremely well-motivated, and will raise allied morale, and lower enemy morale (the Romans and other Celts and such were TERRIFIED of fighting druids, since they were holymen of the culture), but they won't be near as good in combat strength as a real champion, considering they don't regularly fight; their combat training is typically more 'how can you defend yourself if needed' as opposed to 'you need to go fight', which is a big difference.

**kalkwerk** · 03-29-2007, 18:53

According to gamestar hotseat will only be with auto-resolve battles.

**edyzmedieval** · 03-29-2007, 20:27

Ah, CA is getting rubbish even more. Long live EB.

**antisocialmunky** · 03-30-2007, 00:12

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

Ah, CA is getting rubbish even more. Long live EB.

Well, all things considered I'd have to disagree they aren't exactly taking away from gameplay, its not like you can't mod it out. Maybe EB2 will find some use with those new features so instead of taking jabs at CA and Sega, I'd think a better course of action is to see what you can use in the new expansion.

One thing I find interesting is the religion based recruiting that could be applied to things like 'Romanizing' areas. Another is the English Campaign's alliance feature. It'd be nice to be able to itnerect with small factions like the Syrocusians or Celtic and Iberian Tribes.

They're just adding new features instead of making the old ones work alot better which isn't anything new from CA.

**Wolfman** · 03-30-2007, 01:58

Anthony: So they won't be super druids they will be human beings instead. Kinda of like the Sohei warrior monks in japan.I like it.
AntiSocialMunkey: I completely agree with your angle of the discussion It would be nice if the EB team was able to mods these features.

**blacksnail** · 03-30-2007, 15:50

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

Ah, CA is getting rubbish even more. Long live EB.

I strongly disagree. These kinds of things are trivial to mod out, which means a "no magic" mod will show up within a week of the update coming out. The rather small percentage of history nerds (and I include myself here) will be happy, while the rather large percentage of people who want to have massive cinematic battles with "special moves" will be happy as well. This means the game sells more, which means CA stays in business, which means they keep making platforms we can use to mod these games.

Without CA there is no EB, and at this point RTW is pretty long in the tooth - 2004 was a long time ago when you go by market standards. Historical games just do not sell well enough to sustain the size of company required to make the Total War series what it is.

**mlc82** · 03-30-2007, 19:52

Originally Posted by blacksnail

I strongly disagree. These kinds of things are trivial to mod out, which means a "no magic" mod will show up within a week of the update coming out. The rather small percentage of history nerds (and I include myself here) will be happy, while the rather large percentage of people who want to have massive cinematic battles with "special moves" will be happy as well. This means the game sells more, which means CA stays in business, which means they keep making platforms we can use to mod these games.

Without CA there is no EB, and at this point RTW is pretty long in the tooth - 2004 was a long time ago when you go by market standards. Historical games just do not sell well enough to sustain the size of company required to make the Total War series what it is.

The annoying part to me is that they'll spend time putting magic into the game, and keep virtually the same AI that Shogun had (along with the new 3D map that the AI, originally made for a basic 2D "attack or defend" setup, is generally too dumb to use).