Glorious Victories

**Martok** · 04-03-2007, 18:07

Yeesh, cegorach; those were some long odds you were fighting.

I'm particularly amazed you won the battle in Constantinople. Even with the Spanish and Wallachians fighting each other, things must still not have looked very good for you....

**John_Longarrow** · 04-12-2007, 23:48

I have a habit of killing off crappy generals/heirs/leaders by having them go on suicide attacks against rebels. As the Danes, I had a totally bad king who had just come into the throne. I didn't get him to Sweden quickly enough to get him killed off when his father died.

To show that he wasn't all bad, just a horrible leader, I sent him on a one way trip to Norway. Norway with its 360 Vikings. Well, after his visit, at funeral, there were about 30 left.

Yes, One general VS 360 vikings. Yes, it was a fantastic, long, vicious slaughter that I was afraid I was going to win! In the end, the Vikings did what I needed them to and killed him off. I was amazed at how well he fought and for how long.

Over 300 killed for his 20 losses. Not bad if you ask me!

Lets just say that I did a lot of repeat charges and withdrawls for this fight.

**Martok** · 04-13-2007, 00:05

Yep, there's definitely something to be said for those suicide missions, isn't there?

They're pretty much a win-win proposition: At the very least, you'll have lost your crappy king/prince and his retainers, but not before he kills a bunch of enemy troops. At best, he might start to win so much and build up decent stats that he might actually become worth keeping.

**Kavhan Isbul** · 04-13-2007, 00:24

Actually, at worst he loses, killing only a few enemies, but survives as he flees from the field, developing cowardness.

**seireikhaan** · 04-13-2007, 00:52

Haha, I love suicide missions, much more entertaining than killing him with an assassin. Once, as the almohods, I found the perfect way to ensure a good result. I had the spanish beseiged in Leon, with a fort. I sent him to assault the 200 some odd garrisson by himself. When he was knocking down the door to the fort, the enemy actually opened the gate themselves with some UMs they sent to block the door with. The BG's battered them up, pushing them back into the fort. Upon entering the fort, the doors closed behind him! This was one trapped rat. Either he miraculously slaughters the entire garrison and I take the province, or I lose an heir I don't want.

**Kavhan Isbul** · 04-13-2007, 01:00

When I have a poor prince, sieges are the best way to get rid of him, even if it is a mere fort. Just put him in range of the missiles coming out of the fortifications and put the speed slider on maximum. Soon he is dead. Even the worst morale princes do not run, as they never come close to the enemy - sure, they start to waiver when they lose most of their men, but I have never had a unit of Bodyguards run while sitting still in front of the walls. Field battles have way too much risk that the intended suicider will survive by virtue of his own cowardice. And once they run, it is even harder to make sure they stay long enough to get killed the next time.

**Martok** · 04-13-2007, 01:33

Originally Posted by Kavhan Isbul

Actually, at worst he loses, killing only a few enemies, but survives as he flees from the field, developing cowardness.

Which is why I often send him to an overseas location. If he turns tail and runs, well I can always claim I couldn't afford to pay his ransom.

**macsen rufus** · 04-13-2007, 12:40

When suiciding princes, when there's the option, I usually dismount them. Even if they run, they can't run FAST ENOUGH

**Deus ret.** · 04-13-2007, 13:31

Now look. You've turned a thread about glorious victories into a discussion of suicide mission techniques

actually this topic should have its place far from anything 'glorious'

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**ULC** · 04-13-2007, 13:44

Hey, this is supposed to be about amazing victories and battle stratagies, not campaign stratiegies!

Speaking of which... Last night I was playing as the russians when the golden horde invariable invaded with 55,000 men

! This is the most I have seen them come in with, ever. My 2,540 men in Khazar felt the hammer first and last. An started with 8 units of halberdiers, 6 Arbalests and 2 Boyars.
Well the battle started out okay, with me losing men mostly to the GHA, them losing any GHC or GHW they sent over. For 6 striaght hours this continued, and they still kept coming long after the death of thier khan (who oddly enough was killed by his own archers, as I had run out of Arbalests by this time.) I was down to 3 units of Halb's and a Boyar. All of a sudden they retreated. Left. Just simple walked away. It was the most incredible thing ever! My men had killed 15,329 men to 1,342 losses, but captured a total 39,622 men! To bad the khan wasn't still alive, that would have been quite a pay check.