Battle of Ipsus - 301 BC

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Not sure about where to station those pheraspidai in relation to the rest of the troops abou. Wish I could be more help here, but surely some other folks would know that better than I.

[paullus]

When you say misthophoroi hoplitai, do you mean the ones with the thureoi? Because I'd shy away from using any of those troops at this early a date. I think the misthophoroi hoplitai are the only units on your lists to which this concern would apply, so not too big a deal. Good luck setting it up, it would be a fun battle to have.

[abou]

Well, as long as no one objects I'll just put them to the left of the phalanx. Plus, I think this works well for the descriptions for the Hypaspists and Pheraspidai as having fought themselves in the first years of the Diodachi comflicts.

@ Paullus
Don't worry. By Misthophoroi Hoplitai I mean actual mercenary hoplites, not Thureophoroi. At the early stages of planning the battle I was tempted, but realized that it was definitely too early for those units to be used.

[abou]

You know, it is interesting when reading the description of the battle because I have come to the conclusion that instead of deploying mercenaries and allied troops behind the phalanx as Alexander would or even on the sides, it seems as Antigonus positioned them in front of the phalanx. This would do two things - the first of which is to protect the Antigonid elephants and the second would be to counter the Seleucid elephants, which appear to have actually been busy preventing the return of Demetrius. The consequence is that there were no troops to protect the rear of the now vulnerable phalanx, which was then harassed by Seleucus's skirmishers. If this wasn't the case, then I have no idea how Seleucus would have managed to slip his skirmishers around the unprotected flanks of the phalanx.

I think it also seems as though there weren't any elephants screening the cavalry on Seleucus's left flank. Although Bar-Kochva states that Demetrius circumvented the elephants, I can't help but think this would be a bit too difficult and therefore undermine what appears to be a major portion of Seleucus's strategy. My opinion is that the cavalry was left intentionally exposed so as to appear to be an easily exploitable mistake for Demetrius, who would then find himself prevented from returning by the elephants.

[abou]

Here is a beta of the battle. Let me know what you guys think and how it flows - especially if it is too easy due to the massive amount of elephants.

25:1 Battle of Ipsus
40:1 Battle of Ipsus

[Laman]

It would not say too easy. Lost, bad. Probably because I misused my elephants, was somewhat over-confident. Fun battle. Used the 25:1 version.

[TWFanatic]

I've just played this battle. Excellent work, abou, I enjoyed it very much. Managed to win a clear victory on medium with the 25:1 game.

[helenos aiakides]

I am a newbie, could someone tell me how to install and play it please