Are do-nothing factions normal for EB?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Just check out the AI progression thread. It shows plenty of examples of BI and RTW campaigns. Sometimes some factions stink it up in a given campaign, while they will tear it up in others. Only the steppe factions and pontos I'd say are consistently woeful. Even those have flashes of brilliance from time to time.

[Fondor_Yards]

Just check out the AI progression thread. It shows plenty of examples of BI and RTW campaigns. Sometimes some factions stink it up in a given campaign, while they will tear it up in others. Only the steppe factions and pontos I'd say are consistently woeful. Even those have flashes of brilliance from time to time.

In my Roman campaign, the Getai *1 town* and Sweboz *0 towns* have done nothing, but the Iberians and Armenians are expanding very nicely for a change.

The Steppes/Pontus have been really bad in this one, Saka taking 2 towns, Sarmtians taking their typical 2-3 towns, and Pontus and Parthia being destoryed by the Seleucids

[Sheep]

This is my Baktrian campaign in winter 249. VH/M using BI.exe (same as the OP).

As you can see the Germans have torn it up in only 23 years.And I was especially surprised to see that the Sarmatians have already grabbed two towns in Europe!

The Romans and Macedonians have expanded nicely at the expense of Epeiros. The Aedui have taken several rebel provinces and are getting the upper hand on the Averni.

Dacia has conquered one rebel province, the Lusotannans two, the Armenians two, the Pontics and Parthians two (I think). Even Saba has gained some provinces (1 by revolt from Seleukeia). KH and the Ptolemies were kicking ass for awhile. KH had conquered most of Greece south of Pella, but the Macedonians are romping on them now. Egypt had expanded in Asia Minor and down the Arabian coast (they once had a border with Saba), but now the Seleukids are crushing them and about to take Memphis.

Sadly the real do-nothing faction in this game is Carthage. They just took Messana about a year before this screenshot was taken. I'm not exactly sure but I think it was their first conquest.

[Fondor_Yards]

Sadly the real do-nothing faction in this game is Carthage. They just took Messana about a year before this screenshot was taken. I'm not exactly sure but I think it was their first conquest.

It looks like they took three towns in inland west africa too, Kirtan, Siga and Cydaus.

[Zim]

I've noticed factions sometimes get "stuck" after reducing a rebel garrison to the general's unit, who by then has triple gold chevrons and a huge number of command stars. THis happened in my Arverni game with Rome and Patavium, then suddenly Rome exploded onto the map with three giant stacks of high experience, high quality troops.

I actually lost a battle against one.

[Gask]

Yes ive seen that time and again where the rebel city has nothing left in it but a high star general who single handedly repels army after army till he dies of old age or something.

As for my campaigns, Pontos is usually the first faction to die. Parthia tends to be left alone and not do a whole lot. The gauls tend to tickle fight each other for decades and do nothing. Saba is well... Saba, ditto Casse. Getai usually do nothing, same with Carthage. Steppe peoples just hang out at home. Sweboz either go real aggressive or move slowly. Iberians never do anything at all. Macedon usually gets devoured by the eropites and the greeks.

All in all the real movers for me are usually always the Selucids, Egypt against the Selucids, Rome and the Eropites. Sometimes the greeks go east but not always.

Giving obscene amounts of cash to the single settlement factions early on can sometimes get them to do something Ive found.

[Brightblade]

the way you phrase your questions makes me want to cry deep inside.

EB's goal is to make do nothing factions... moron.

[Sheep]

It looks like they took three towns in inland west africa too, Kirtan, Siga and Cydaus.

Oh okay, they must have done it really early then, I didn't start looking at the map until about 5 years in, and they haven't done crap since then. So never mind then.

[Zaknafien]

Germans are doing pretty damn good in my build, circa 184 BCE, and on RTW not BI.

[LordCurlyton]

I guess you're the Romans and DAMN! what happened to the Carthies? Looks like you pulled an "eliminate all family members" job. Good show!