Weird Observation

**Atalus** · 04-01-2007, 05:12

Just had a thought about re-trying failed agent missions using the save feature. Do you think that it's possible that when you turn starts or ends he's given a % that he needs to get otherwise he will always fail the mission barring stroke of genius? I am not sure how to describe this any better due to i just can't find better words atm.

**sapi** · 04-01-2007, 06:58

I believe that at the end of each turn, a base random number is generated.

This is then modified according to other factors to determine whether the agent succeeds.

**_Tristan_** · 04-01-2007, 07:44

Each time you save/load to retry an agent mission (mostly due to failure... I presume), you'll have to reload the seed (that is to say the way that the AI generates the chances of success)...

In order to do that, you have to make the AI do another calculation, either by trying another agent mission, or fighting a battle...

That way, you should get a different result from the one you had earlier...

**Whacker** · 04-01-2007, 11:09

Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng

Each time you save/load to retry an agent mission (mostly due to failure... I presume), you'll have to reload the seed (that is to say the way that the AI generates the chances of success)...

In order to do that, you have to make the AI do another calculation, either by trying another agent mission, or fighting a battle...

That way, you should get a different result from the one you had earlier...

Not true, as far as I've tested so far. Reloading the game and doing nothing else (this is tested on assassination attempts) but the action in question will yield different results. To be absolutely sure I parked my assassins directly next to and facing the targets, so literally there was nothing done but the attempt itself. There was some interesting discussion in a few other threads on this.

**Nebuchadnezzar** · 04-01-2007, 11:20

Originally Posted by Whacker

Not true, as far as I've tested so far. Reloading the game and doing nothing else (this is tested on assassination attempts) but the action in question will yield different results. To be absolutely sure I parked my assassins directly next to and facing the targets, so literally there was nothing done but the attempt itself. There was some interesting discussion in a few other threads on this.

But did you do the attempt in exact same order each time after reload or not? I believe if the order is altered then the results also are altered.

**Atalus** · 04-01-2007, 19:20

Ok well lets say that a base number is generated and it doesn't reseed when you load. Very, and i mean Very rarely you can pass a mission off of a save/load. But I trying to do it again and again but I not seeing this happen more than 1:100.

For the record no i didn't test this 100 times. I have a life outside of this game

but maybe for those who play warhammer or games similar there is that chance that a second roll is made out of 100 and by chance should the computer decide that the character gets a 100 you pass. but on the reload when it rolls again the chances of getting that 100 .... well we know the odds