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    Default CONDOTTIERI : Italy at war in 1450-1550




    In the end of the XV century the Italian states started to follow that military stream, predicted and supported by some of their most notable minds like Guicciardini and Macchiavelli, that wanted armies to be built up by professional soldiers. This mainly for economic and fidelity reasons, but also for disponibility and a more controllable preparation level.
    European armies like the French one or the Holy Roman Empire, kept mercenaries as the bulk of their forces, relying on the most famous mercenaries of that time respectively like the Swiss and the Landsknechts. While these nations continued to field as infantry only these excellent soldiers, the Italian states started to show the first professionals by their side. Some of the most important battles of the time like Marignano, Pavia and Fornovo showed clearly this tendency while continuing to offer the show of great numbers of those mercenaries, considered at right amongst the best soldiers of the time. These professional armies had their infantry split between a local militia called "Ordinanze" or "Cernide" and a professional force, constituted by daily trained soldiers called "Provisionati". These two types shared in many forms their weaponry and equipment, even at a different level.
    In the first years of the XVI century this constitution remained and showed the rightness of the initial ideas, with professinal, persistent armies of even 25K effectives in relatively small states like the Duchy of Milan. And even if in these years some of these states military and politically died for many reasons, this new army concept remained and developed till nowadays, side by side again with the mighty figures and Swiss and Landsknechts mercenaries, making this period one of the most colorful of the netire military history.
    Our aim here is to answers with a mod to some "What if..." questions about the Italian Wars.
    One of them could be:" What if Milan succeded in defending itself from the French invasion in 1495?" Or another one:"What if the combined forces of the Holy League failed to stop the French king at Fornovo ?"
    These are only two of the many questions history offers. Particulary important fo Italian history, this perìios gives us the opportunity of an hypothetical mod; a "what if mod" where the answer is the player's game.
    Starting with the historical states of 1450 and featuring "fantastic" units extracted mixing tradition and military advances, we want to recreate that "total war" time introducing an alternative ending, alongside with historical events like French and German invasions and Spanish influences.

    This will be the Faction List divided in:

    Italian Factions,
    Venice - Repubblica di Venezia
    Sicily - Regno di Napoli
    Milan - Ducato di Milano
    Scotland - Principato di Trento
    Russia - Domini dei Gonzaga
    Moors - Domini Estensi
    Danes - Repubblica di Siena
    Portugal - Repubblica di Genova
    Poland - Repubblica di Lucca
    Papists - Stato della Chiesa
    Mongols - Marchesato di Saluzzo
    Tartars - Repubblica di Firenze
    England - Ducato di Savoia
    Aztecs - Respublica Ragusina
    Hungary - Condottieri
    That will have their own units list, and the Foreign Factions like
    France - Regno di Francia
    HRE - Arciducato d'Austria
    Spain - Regno d'Aragona
    Byzantium - Confederazione Elvetica
    Egyptians - Stati Barbareschi
    Turks - Impero Ottomano
    Then,
    Rebels as usual...


    Here's the Unit list for the Italian Factions.

    For Infantry we have:

    Populares
    Arceri
    Lanceri della milizia
    Balestrieri della milizia
    Miliziani Balestrieri
    Rotularii
    Balestrieri provisionati con pavese
    Picchieri
    Fanteria Liziera
    Fanteria Grave
    DoppiSoldi
    Alabardieri
    Homini d'arme appiedati
    Archibugeri Provisionati
    Archibugeri della milizia
    Moschettieri
    Scoppiettieri

    Then Cavalry:

    Galuppi
    Balestriei montati
    Archibugeri a cavallo
    Homini d'arme
    Lanze Spezzate
    Raitri
    Cavallegieri
    Generale
    Alfiere

    And last but not the least Artillery:

    Bombarda
    Mortaio
    Cannone a organo
    Mezza Colubrina
    Colubrina

    For units description you'll have to wait the previews of these units posted asap...

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    Pictures of our work till now will be posted soon, but now i have an important request for this community.

    Our coder, Zorgrathz had some personal problems lately and he had to give up his help for our team.

    We are working rapidly also on the new map, but this could be a big problem.

    If anyone is interested in helping us is welcome!


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    Here's an eye candy:

    This will be your main militia force, at least for the first times..."Miliziani con lancia".


    And here a common light cavalry in Dalmatian coasts as well in northeastern Italy: "Stradiotti".

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    Here's the second update: Venetian Picchieri delle Ordinanze


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    Here's another preview of our units.

    The Provisionati di San Marco for Venetian Republic (professional pikemen).



    Still no one ?

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    Wow, looking really good Caprera. Sounding interesting to boot aswell.

    Goodluck, and I look foreward to playing this

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