I love this forum & all total war games, yea, yea, yea, every game gets boring just like "Sapi" said. PLAY a different game HPsims, Age of Empires, HoI, EUIII, IP Glory, ect... for a few days then go back and see what you liked about MTW2 (ants, ants, oh the pretty little ants) That said I have been want to get this off my chest for a while now, here goes thats how much you get .

1. Something is missing What? (NOT) nothing is missing CA has just added some new twist and tweaked some old ones, good or (mostly) bad.

2. Along the lines of tweaks & twists CA/Sega blew it big time, "SORRY" Capt. Fish Pants & the rest of the crew but Pike Fix, 2 Hand, Shield bug, Calvary charge, & don't chase routers, ect... the list is huge with a major impact on game play!

3. Sure MOD it, hack the files & type this or that, its coming in the patch, what ever should come on the disc I bought.

4. I will buy the expansion just like always but it sounds a lot like Age of Empires III, it's around here some where?

5. New wave, psycho card $400 upgrade your computer???

6. All war games are great, no matter what era is your preference & yes make NAPPY TW, CIVIL WAR TW, & any other TW game you can, now I'm no computer programmer or graphics guy but we already have canons & guns & the AI (in all games is pretty lame) so lets Rock-N-Roll and get the show on the road.

7. DISCLAIMER sorry if I have offended any one or have been out of line but when your out conquering the world cussing like a pig, rape & pillage the village, $$$$, micro manage, war is hell, did you see that, ect... it all just goes to your head I just love these guys... LATER.