Debating a religion is a change for the backroom! Your having a giraffe.
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Debating a religion is a change for the backroom! Your having a giraffe.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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Well, at least it's a different religion. You gotta take your pleasures where you can find 'em.
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Sigh...
I don't understand the point of these threads (flat earth, scientology). All it does is seem to bring out 60 or so posts of mockery.
I guess people need to feel better about themselves...
For once I'd actually like to see why someones beliefs are actually better than scientology's or whatever pina[with a nya]ta subject they mock...
Last edited by Reenk Roink; 04-04-2007 at 16:50.
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It's simple, Reenk -Christianity is based on the fact that Christ died for our sins, so that we might obtain eternal life.
Scientology is based on the fact that Hubbard was greedy, and formed so that he might get rich. It brainwashes, steals, sues everyone, and occasionally kills.
Crazed Rabbit
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The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
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Not just Christianity; all religions, secular systems, philosophies, whatever...Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
I really wasn't talking about what crimes were linked to scientology, rather their actual beliefs.
It may seem ridiculous to "hail Xenu" or whatever but it's quite clear to me that the basis of scientology is no more firmly set than say scientism (and many of the mockers are coming from a scientistic/different religion) view.
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My favorite American religion is the Shakers, or the United Society of Believers in Christ's Second Appearing, who have through a stringent policy of celebacy have (not) bred themselves into virtual nonexistence. They do make nice furniture though.
And though there are only a handfull left, the majority of which are quite old, I bet any one of them could beat Tom Cruise in an arm wrestling match.
My kingdom for a
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They came from Bury. In fact Bury FC are still called the 'Shakers' to this day.
BTW what's all that hanging their furniture on the wall all about?
Religion...biggest scam ever invented.
There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy.”
To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.
"The purpose of a university education for Left / Liberals is to attain all the politically correct attitudes towards minorties, and the financial means to live as far away from them as possible."
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Everything you wanted to know about Scientology but were afraid to ask...
http://www.xenu.net/
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BTW what's all that hanging their furniture on the wall all about?
Where else do you put furniture, like on the floor where children can put their dirty hands all over it? Maybe the shakers should start making shaker sofa covers, in glorious vinyl. (this board needs a Jesus emoti-con).
So, when the Mormons get their planets, and the Scientologists get their UFOs, who will win the intergalactic war that will insue?
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And religions (especially Catholicism) got immensely rich by pure fluke? No, they went after money wherever they could lay their hands on it. Be it slavery, warfare or indeed (I believe) prostitution in the past.
Merely as other religions are based many years in the past does not absolve them of all sins whereas modern religions are by default guilty.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
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rory, you're confusing religion with church.And religions (especially Catholicism) got immensely rich by pure fluke? No, they went after money wherever they could lay their hands on it. Be it slavery, warfare or indeed (I believe) prostitution in the past.
Merely as other religions are based many years in the past does not absolve them of all sins whereas modern religions are by default guilty.
Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.
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But surely Catholicism is a religion. It is a branch of Christianity which has only recently stopped trying to wipe out the others; aspects of what other branches believe is still heresy. You can't be of the Catholic faith without belonging to the Catholic Church.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
"If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill
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rory, come on. How can a concept get rich ?!
Catholicism, or any religion in general, is a system of beliefs. Concepts. Abstract things, without a material manifestation, if you want.
Church = the institution; it has a very physical manifestation. The institution, and the people leading it, got rich, committed atrocities in the name of whatever, etc. That does not make the system of beliefs wrong, or "guilty". As always, the flaw is in the people.
Would you like me to make an analogy that may be closer to home ? Ok, I'll try.
"Doctors" throughout the Middle Ages and before killed lots of people with their so-called medicine. Not intentionally, mind you - they thought they were helping the patient. But that's all they knew at that time. Does that mean that medicine, the concept, is bad ? No, of course not.
It doesn't even mean that all doctors are, or were, evil.
The inquisitors firmly believed that they would save your soul by burning you at the stake.
Crazy ? For sure. Ridiculous ? Absolutely. Utter madness ? By all means. Criminal ? You bet.
Can we infer that all churches = bad ? Nope.
Do you still see churches today calling for crusades, killing people, etc ? No, I don't think so. As for a few rotten apples - they are everywhere: in churches, in gov't, in medicine, in law enforcement, everywhere. That does not make the whole institutions, or the concepts they stand for and symbolize, inherently bad.
Well, it may not be the best analogy, but I hope I've managed to get my point across.
Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper.
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