How to find agents

**Packet** · 04-05-2007, 09:17

Is there any easier way to find agents? I click up the agent's scroll but can't sort by agent type. Once the game has been going for a while there's a lot of agents and a long list and everytime I go down through the list and take an action with one the list pops back up to the top. So then I have to scroll back down to the agent I just moved and continue on down the list and everytime I take an action the list pops back up to the top again so I have to repeat this over and over.

It would be nice to be able to just sort by agent types or just be able to view one type only. This was a big problem in Rome and it sucks that it wasn't improved.

**Ethelred Unread** · 04-05-2007, 09:20

That's the only way at the moment.

Is this sort of thing moddable?

**bret** · 04-05-2007, 10:55

Click "Status" at the top of the agent list and it will sort by type.

**ieyeasu** · 04-05-2007, 11:09

I always forget about my agents, and as a result, I tend to neglect the agent side of the TW games.

Other than parking priests in far off lands, I normally don't play with agents at all.

**_Tristan_** · 04-05-2007, 13:35

As stated by Bret, clicking on "status" will arrange agents by type...

What annoys me with that list is that you cannot see if that agent still has some actions left or not...At least in RTW, you could see if it had some moves left (by power-bar)... Something of the kind would have been good...

**Foz** · 04-05-2007, 17:03

I think the absolute best solution to this problem would be the one that's been employed by various other games in the genre already w/ respect to worker units: a hotkey that cycles through all idle units. In this case it could be applied to the agents on the campaign map. It would save a lot of time that you currently have to spend going through the roster list looking to see if each guy is doing something this turn.

A great addition to that would be an actual agent mission system to keep track of what each agent is doing. You could assign spies to guard cities or remain in enemy cities for x turns or indefinitely. Priests could be assigned to preach somewhere until a condition is met - maybe 90% your religion, or whatever you choose. The point is, then you'd know at a glance that the agent was actively doing his job - and, consequently, anyone not "on a mission" would be considered idle, and the idle agent hotkey would cycle through them so you could assign missions.

The other big perk of this would be that agents on missions could automate their own movement toward the objective. It's a huge annoyance to me that my agents have their movement interrupted every 2 turns, and I have to try to remember where they were going and why so I can redo the trip. It would be relatively easy to implement this, and then the agent would remember where he's going and not ask me for directions all the time - he'd simply go, and re-plan the trip himself whenever necessary.

The real point here, though, isn't the time it would save - it's that without it, I can't and won't use agents in any stage of the game save the very earliest. As the game progresses, the number of agents required to get things done becomes quite high, and the current method of controlling them simply is not good enough to make it manageable. The agents are a great idea, and very interesting, but some better way to manage them is clearly required to make them a useful and usable part of the game.

**Packet** · 04-06-2007, 05:11

Thanks all. I knew that you can sort by status but if you take an action with an agent the list resorts itself again and you're back at the top. It's just a cumbersome process and after doing it every turn it gets old.

Also if I give a long range move order that spans several turns to an agent sometimes he just forgets it and sits there and I never knew it. Sometimes it gives me a path blocked message if he gets stuck but most of the time he just stops and if I don't check each one every turn they get forgotten. These were my biggest complaints with Rome and I can't believe they didn't put in some improvements for this.

**Philbert** · 04-06-2007, 08:11

Agreed. Another annoyance is that if you send an agent on a long trip, you can't tell him within your turn to walk along its path. You either have to rightclick on the target again, which takes a lot of scrolling, or you have to wait for the automated action at end of turn, in which case you can't resend him when he is blocked.