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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good
    It's an overused quote, but I'm happy you're happy with your police state.

    These kind of actions strike me as the natural outcome of a growing central government, the kind that is naturally socialist. If you are busy looking over your citizen's shoulders to make sure they are doing financially OK, it isn't too much to keep looking over their shoulders for other things.

    I'd point and laugh more at you UKers, but this is probably ten to twenty years down the line for us.

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    Actually I think it is quite the opposite, rather than coming about because of a socialist state this has come about because of a free market state and an extreme free market state, at that.

    Socialism is anything but a police state.
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    How come noone even remotely responded to my previous post? It raises the question on how could the goverment keep the cameras up in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Actually I think it is quite the opposite, rather than coming about because of a socialist state this has come about because of a free market state and an extreme free market state, at that.

    Socialism is anything but a police state.
    How is this a free market cause? Free markets are based on economic freedom, which usually goes in hand with more, not less freedoms.

    And perhaps Utopian socialism is not a police state, but it seems that that's not the case in practice.

    Glad to have ya back, JAG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Socialism is anything but a police state.
    Pure gold.

    In theory, you would be correct. In reality, I'd have to disagree.



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    So... Free Market is ovbiously a police state; socialism is of course not. NO argument given as usual.

    In the UK there are already loads of cameras, and generally they're not destroyed. Dunno why.

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