question on dates b.c to ad

[antisocialmunky]

Or the Roman Saturnalia. Evergreens were used in festivals all throughout the north and then some. It usually meant rebirth of the sun(hence it being on the darkest days of the year) or something.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

But who came up with the modern clock?

Probably the Sumerians, who used base 12 and base 60. They put a slanted stick in the ground, noticed that the shadow moves in nearly a circle around the base. Then they put down numbers (1-12, being base 12) 12/0 being north. The sundial was born. When mechanical clocks were made, it was just easiest to make the 12 that was once north, now up.




I think the original "God(s)" comment meant Jewish God, Christian God, and Allah.

The Trinity is a big reason that countless people have died. The first interChristian holy wars were between Arian Christians (who believed God & Jesus were separate with Jesus under God) and the Athenisians(sp) (who believed that God/Jesus/Holy Spirit were the same being that manifest themselves in different ways). One of the reasons "The Vandals" are looked down on so much is because they were Arian and killed those they saw as heretics. Also in the early Frankish kingdom, there were conflicts between Arians and Athenisians (often called the first purely Christian wars).

Then there is the Trinity and Islam. Muhammad wrote that all those who followed one god were brothers to Muslums and that, while they were less than Muslums, they were not to be persicuted. Early Islamic kingdoms forced polytheistic peoples to convert, flee, or die. But Christians and Jews were allowed to live in Islamic countries as long as they paid a "non-Islam" tax. But there were tensions between the Turks and the Byzantines...then after the Crusades any hope of multirelgion cooperation died. But the Trinity played a part. Since Mohammad had said it was bad to kill monotheistic, Muslums got around this rule by saying that Christians were not monotheistic, following three gods. Thus, they were allowed to attack Christian kingdoms. Conflicts between Christians and Muslums have been costing lives for centuries, justified on one side by a technicallity. (Just to be fair, most Christian v Islam "holy wars" seem to have been started or instigated by Christians. Though countries that happened to be Islamic have done a good amount of conquering areas that were mostly Christian.)

This uncomfortable and esoteric arguement free of charge...

[Boyar Son]

(Just to be fair, most Christian v Islam "holy wars" seem to have been started or instigated by Christians. Though countries that happened to be Islamic have done a good amount of conquering areas that were mostly Christian.)

This uncomfortable and esoteric arguement free of charge...................

Whats so fair about that? Muslim didnt get a wag of the finger...

[Teleklos Archelaou]

I think I'll start dating my checks 108.3 now. Thanks! Looks like a radio station! Power 108.3 FM!

[abou]

Caesar is the really messiah. All dates should be adjusted by 100 years to mark the momentous occasion of his birth.

... well, at least he is my messiah.

[Watchman]

Why not start dating from the traditional date of founding of Rome, the Eternal City, as the Romans did ? Ab urbe condita or however they now put it.

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Cause they're just one faction. If we really did go with another dating system, it'd be one that was common over more of the map at our starting time roughly. That wouldn't be A.U.C. for sure. It probably would be Olympiad dating or something like that, but that really wouldn't do either, so we just use dating most players will understand. We've had serious discussions over this and realized it's just not possible to change this part of the game engine (if you could alter dating based upon faction or culture, now *that* would be awesome).