Barbarian Roads

**Goatus_Boyus** · 04-19-2007, 01:44

So in the latest patch it says all Barbarians get paved roads..playing a Getai game,have a city to level 5?..as high as it can go on the browser,and I can't get paved roads.
GB

**Teleklos Archelaou** · 04-19-2007, 02:03

Where has anyone said all barbarians get paved roads? They don't. Celts do, but Sweboz, Getai, and Lusotannan don't.

**Wolfman** · 04-19-2007, 02:59

Why only the Celts? Weren't the getai who are a thracian tribe who were influenced by the greeks who had stone roads.

**Wolfshart** · 04-19-2007, 04:22

Originally Posted by Wolfman25

Why only the Celts? Weren't the getai who are a thracian tribe who were influenced by the greeks who had stone roads.

They were isolated from much of the hellenistic land simply by geography. They only really started advancing in cultural ways after 200BC or so.

**Goatus_Boyus** · 04-19-2007, 07:19

Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou

Where has anyone said all barbarians get paved roads? They don't. Celts do, but Sweboz, Getai, and Lusotannan don't.

Europa Barbarorum 0.81 patch
List Of Changes
Updates -paved roads are now available for barbarian factions.
If it's gaul only that is fine,but reads as if all barbarian factions,more encouragment to play gaul I guess!
gb

**Catuvellauni** · 04-19-2007, 11:01

So the casse, aedui, arverni all have paved roads( or should) because I'm playing as casse and I can't build paved roads, is there some kind of reform?

**Ludens** · 04-19-2007, 11:50

Originally Posted by Catuvellauni

So the casse, aedui, arverni all have paved roads( or should) because I'm playing as casse and I can't build paved roads, is there some kind of reform?

Actually, not all Celts get paved roads, only the Aedui and Averni.

**Catuvellauni** · 04-19-2007, 12:29

is this because the aedui and arverni are considered more civilized than the casse. Do the Gallic tribes also get mining upgrades as well?

**Batahr** · 04-19-2007, 12:50

Originally Posted by Catuvellauni

is this because the aedui and arverni are considered more civilized than the casse?

Knowing the EB team, this is done because there is evidence the Aedui/Arveni did build something better than dirt roads in history (not necessarily 'paved roads' as the romans used) and the casse didn't.

**Catuvellauni** · 04-19-2007, 13:04

ok if there is evidence for them in gaul thats fine.

I'm also just wondering if there is' any improvements in Celtic fortifications? e.g like the Murus Gallicus

**Watchman** · 04-19-2007, 14:06

Modding RTW fortification thingys is a royal pain AFAIK. They did have a side project regarding that going long ago IIRC, but it sorta fell through.

**Ludens** · 04-19-2007, 16:03

Originally Posted by Batahr

Knowing the EB team, this is done because there is evidence the Aedui/Arveni did build something better than dirt roads in history (not necessarily 'paved roads' as the romans used) and the casse didn't.

If I understood TA correctly, this is indeed the case. In Caesar's time the Gauls possessed over a more advanced road network than the Britons and Germans, although this only appeared late in the mod's time-frame. Unfortunately, the game does not allow to set different building requirements per faction, so the Gauls can construct them at the start, like all other factions that get them.

Originally Posted by Catuvellauni

ok if there is evidence for them in gaul thats fine.

I'm also just wondering if there is' any improvements in Celtic fortifications? e.g like the Murus Gallicus

The EB team has been planning this for a long time, but they lack a 3D modeler to actually implement it.

**Wolfman** · 04-19-2007, 20:13

Thanks Wolfshart. I looked up Thrace in my encyclopedia earlier today and found what you said. Its good to have a mod thats historically acurrate and that treats all nations and people fairly. Not just the greek and roman ones.