stopping corruption

[Cataphract_Of_The_City]

Or if you want a soulution that isn't a copy of a film, maarch im into Germany with part of the sons legion, and have him engage the ememy, one the battle starts, have all members of the other legion retreat, leaving germanius and his loyal troops to fight to the death.

Excellent idea!

[alatar]

I read the entire post before I remberd it was my idea, thanks

[Intranetusa]

^ We need a hacker to crack the source code... :/

[Jesus_saves]

You could always use the 'kill_character' command in the script

[hellenes]

Hard-coded means that a feature/function is not available in the accompanying files, and implementation would require changing the .exe file. Not only is this next to impossible if you don't know the source code, it's also illegal to distribute modified versions of the .exe file.

But isnt that only in the case that you try to circumvent the CD protection?

[Ludens]

But isnt that only in the case that you try to circumvent the CD protection?

I don't know much about copyright jurisdiction, but I think not: you are distributing commercial products without reimbursing the owner. They might tolerate that if you simply changing data files (e.g. modding) since you still need the .exe to run those, but in the above scenario you are going to supply the .exe as well.

[hellenes]

I don't know much about copyright jurisdiction, but I think not: you are distributing commercial products without reimbursing the owner. They might tolerate that if you simply changing data files (e.g. modding) since you still need the .exe to run those, but in the above scenario you are going to supply the .exe as well.

But if this exe doesnt violate any copyright or promote piracy...I dont know it might be tolerated as well...
The Pro Evolution Soccer PC modders in orther to add more crowd chants have modified the exe...and they have no problem...At the end of the day IMO its up to CA/SEGA...I doubt that they will stop it if it only makes more people to buy the game for an outstanding groundbreaking mod... ;)

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

so does that mean the words HARD CODED don't exist?


so that means EB can be everyones ideas =]

as long as ya don't go selling it off

but i would donate money because personally i love it

[Ludens]

But if this exe doesnt violate any copyright or promote piracy...I dont know it might be tolerated as well...
The Pro Evolution Soccer PC modders in orther to add more crowd chants have modified the exe...and they have no problem...At the end of the day IMO its up to CA/SEGA...I doubt that they will stop it if it only makes more people to buy the game for an outstanding groundbreaking mod... ;)

But if you can download the .exe freely on the internet, why buy the game? This is a genuine question as I am working under the assumption that the .exe files equates to the program, minus various settings and data files. Your example indicates that this is not the case.

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

i have done that for PES8/9 i cant remember

but its the world cup edition it removes an entire part out of the game

all the league teams etc. you can only play with international teams

which is a very small part of the game

this can be applied to BI

with EB installed you cant play provincial campaign anymore right?

[hellenes]

But if you can download the .exe freely on the internet, why buy the game? This is a genuine question as I am working under the assumption that the .exe files equates to the program, minus various settings and data files. Your example indicates that this is not the case.

Well if the exe is 14mb and the game is 10gb dont you think that will wont work just with the exe...do you?
Also if the said exe is modified to NOT ask for the original disk then we are talking about warez...
However if the exe still asks for the disk what you gonna do by downloading it? You still will be required to have a disk...
I dont understand the whole secreteve attitude of some companies and other companies give out SDKs freely...like Valve or CIV...

[alatar]

Because if you crack the exe and someone has lost there CD and want to play, you send them the modified .exe, and then no-one buys the game anymore as it can be got free. CA go off there nut and close down any mods in progress, lower the moddablity of all future games and BOOM no more EB mods ever. Be happy with what you have don't risk it fo little or no rason.

(though it would be cool)

[hellenes]

Because if you crack the exe and someone has lost there CD and want to play, you send them the modified .exe, and then no-one buys the game anymore as it can be got free. CA go off there nut and close down any mods in progress, lower the moddablity of all future games and BOOM no more EB mods ever. Be happy with what you have don't risk it fo little or no rason.

(though it would be cool)

Ill post again what I wrote directly above your post:

Also if the said exe is modified to NOT ask for the original disk then we are talking about warez...
However if the exe still asks for the disk what you gonna do by downloading it? You still will be required to have a disk...

[alatar]

Yes, but theres always the chance that once the .exe is hacked someone will just make it not ask for the disk, CA will see this hacked exe, see EB modded it and blame them for letting someone hack it.
Not worth the risk I think.

[hellenes]

Yes, but theres always the chance that once the .exe is hacked someone will just make it not ask for the disk, CA will see this hacked exe, see EB modded it and blame them for letting someone hack it.
Not worth the risk I think.

So CA makes the original exe...
A cracked modifies it and uploads it on the net (as they already did with M2TW and RTW)...
So CA should blame themselves?
They have "let" the cracker crack it...
It doesnt make any sense how EB should not "let" any cracker crack the exe if CA themselves cant protect their original exe?
The exe has already been hacked none expects some modders to give them way...there are cracks on the net with EVERY patch/xpack of CA...
So if EB makes a mod that requires the exe to be modified it will not affect the protection of the game...

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

all i did was suggest one thing and it has caused a debate

hah

i did it so EB could be alot better, more real
as i have suggested things in the past and people have just should

"no. hardcoded"

who can finish this debate eeeyy

[alatar]

It's still risky, the forums have a polisy of no craked games to EB would get kicked off the forums and have no way to advertize, ask a team member of a moderator of these forums.

[hellenes]

It's still risky, the forums have a polisy of no craked games to EB would get kicked off the forums and have no way to advertize, ask a team member of a moderator of these forums.

Well I think that you didnt undestand me well:
Cracked exe that circumvents the CD protection=/=Modified exe that allows deep gameplay modding
Forums dont allow NOCD cracks if the exe still requires the original disk to function It doesnt fall into that category...Now thats my interpretation based on logic... a moderator will make it more clear...

[Zalmoxis]

You know what's weird? I've never had an RTW campaign where I had more than 55000 denari.

[Will_YouFight_ForME]

I feel like Cicero and thats no compliment!
I was just trying to introducing new ideas

My economy is booming in short because everyone is happy and corrupt
and the military is my only real massive expense i'll post my financial tab if you want
i have a question..

1. who gets to decide what things should be introduced into EB

[alatar]

Okay you want another reason not to do it? It will be messy and comlicated, I mean there isn't just a command line saying "Assains can attack...".

[Foot]

Well I think that you didnt undestand me well:
Cracked exe that circumvents the CD protection=/=Modified exe that allows deep gameplay modding
Forums dont allow NOCD cracks if the exe still requires the original disk to function It doesnt fall into that category...Now thats my interpretation based on logic... a moderator will make it more clear...

Logic may make sense here, but Law is God, and Copyright Law doubly so. Ever read the EULA, heres a quote from the Windows XP Home Edition one:

4. LIMITATIONS ON REVERSE ENGINEERING, DECOMPILATION, AND DISASSEMBLY. You may not reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble the Software, except and only to the extent where such activity is expressly permitted by applicable law notwithstanding this limitation.

I bet RTW has something similar. Stop arguing about this, the EULA for RTW will clearly state that no matter the purpose the reverse engineering of the .exe supplied with the game will break the agreement, no matter the purpose. Thats just the way it is, companies need to the protect themselves, and it is easier to make blanket statements than try to think about all the small little ways that someone could break code that would be bad for business.

Foot

[alatar]

Logic may make sense here, but Law is God, and Copyright Law doubly so. Ever read the EULA, heres a quote from the Windows XP Home Edition one:



I bet RTW has something similar. Stop arguing about this, the EULA for RTW will clearly state that no matter the purpose the reverse engineering of the .exe supplied with the game will break the agreement, no matter the purpose. Thats just the way it is, companies need to the protect themselves, and it is easier to make blanket statements than try to think about all the small little ways that someone could break code that would be bad for business.

Foot

Thanks for the support, And I thought I was all on my own

[Foot]

1. who gets to decide what things should be introduced into EB

The EB team, its mostly democratic and if a new feature is contentious then we take a vote. Most of us focus on our areas, and we trust others to do the work and do it well. Obviously the admins have the last say in the matter, but I can't remember the last time we woke those monsters.

Foot