Conquering the entire world?

**13th-Caesar** · 04-08-2007, 15:10

On RTW I am playing as the Greek Cities on hard/v.hard and I have conquered nearly all the map. My official regions count is currently 87 or 88 and I am laying siege to 3 or 4 more at the minute.

My question is, what happens when you conquer the whole map (about 100 regions I would guess)? And also, what happens when there is no more factions left, only rebels (I am unsure whther to take Ireland)?

Also, I am normally losing money every 3rd turn or so, even though I own over 85 regions, my army is huge I would guess maybe 20 full legions, but still surely I should be getting huge cash sums every turn?

One more problem: I was betrayed by Carthage so I wiped them out. Then the city under Carthage (Thapsus?) rebelled when it was on 70% and the first turn it went back to Carthage?!?! They got a full strength (20 unit) force in the city, including elephants, heavy infantry and heavy cavalry... how did that happen!? A couple of turns before it said "faction destroyed: Carthage"

**Sohwen** · 04-08-2007, 16:16

I'm not sure why but some dead factions can come back during rebellions. It's happened to me before.

You should be able to see your expenses, so check that out as to why you're losing money.

And, if you're playing vanilla, you win only if you conquer Rome. Not much else happens.

**Kralizec** · 04-08-2007, 16:46

RTW doesn't have faction reemergences.

And there's a victory message for all factions, not just the Romans, when you've conquered 50 settlements including Rome.

I don't know what happens if you conquer the entire map, I never played to that point.

**13th-Caesar** · 04-08-2007, 22:05

Originally Posted by Fenring

RTW doesn't have faction reemergences.

It does. Carthage came back to life. It had one family member, I killed him in battle and I though that would be the end of them. But they continue to stay alive from the dead. Also they dont take bribes which is unusual, I cant beat their army because all my forces are in the north-eastern corner so I am just packing it with spies and hoping it rebels making it easier to take.

**Warmaster Horus** · 04-09-2007, 08:26

Are you sure it went back to Carthage? And not Carthaginian rebels?
As for the rest, you're losing money because of your army.
And, when you conquer the whole map, there's a second victory animation (or pic, can't remember) that shows. Then, I don't think you can keep on playing.

**13th-Caesar** · 04-09-2007, 11:27

Thanks for the answers! Does it matter if its only me and rebels left playing, I have got 4 more regions to take and 1 is rebels, so if I take the other 3 non-rebel regions will it stop playing?

**Kralizec** · 04-09-2007, 16:44

Originally Posted by 13th-Caesar

It does. Carthage came back to life. It had one family member, I killed him in battle and I though that would be the end of them. But they continue to stay alive from the dead. Also they dont take bribes which is unusual, I cant beat their army because all my forces are in the north-eastern corner so I am just packing it with spies and hoping it rebels making it easier to take.

When a faction is totally destroyed (they either run out of family members or settlements) you'll get a "faction destroyed" notification. They'll never return after that.

**13th-Caesar** · 04-09-2007, 17:44

Originally Posted by Fenring

When a faction is totally destroyed (they either run out of family members or settlements) you'll get a "faction destroyed" notification.

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Sorry, but they do. This happened with me and Carthage.

When you complete the game (woo!) it comes up with "Victory! You have conquered from sunrise to sunset. Frmo the icy seas to the scorching deserts" return to main menu. It took me until 210 summer bc.

**Geoffrey S** · 04-09-2007, 18:05

It would be nice if you could back up your claims of Carthage returning. Cities rebelling to the rebel faction (with region-specific units) is a perfectly frequent occurance; a faction re-emerging is impossible under RTW.