How to make a vassal

[Jong]

Hello Sinan.

They are still my vassals about 30 turns on, although the Moors got quite annoyed when I marched some crusaders through their lands towards Toulouse, even though I had a military access. Must be because they are Muslim.

I am currently waging a large scale war against Milanese Aggression. Nasty buggers almost wiped France off the map (Only got that one Atlantic province near Spain), so I decided to issue a call to arms to all Christendom to stop them. They've got 9 enemies now.

Unfortunately, this has greatly delayed my plans to set up Outremer. Increasing the size of Spain and the Moors past 2 has reduced my vassal funding to almost zero, due to the negation of the LTC AI money cheat. So now I can barely support my 3 full-stacks running around Europe in addition to the ever increasing construction budget. I really shouldn't have given the English and Venetians 55k worth of war subsidies.

At least my French allies are out of the way.

Sorry about the absence of screenshots.

P.S. The house rules make the logistics of waging war far from Spain a real problem. I have to be more conservative with my troops. Europe may soon turn yellow.

P.P.S. I really hope those Spainards/Castillians/Aragonese don't turn on me.

[Shahed]

Thanks for the update. So it seems to be working !

[Richard The Tiger Heart]

Wont vassals betray you easily? I mean Lands to Conquer is one thing, the AI when it comes to alliances is resonable, but vanilla 1.1 is another. This probably isnt the case on 1.2 . Ill give it a try anyway with the leaked patch...

[TevashSzat]

Yes, someone should try it on the 1.2. I would do so but can't get access to M2TW right now. I suspect that it may be due to LTC mod instead of normal diplomacy.

[Tamur]

Great experimentation there Jong, and very nice writeup. Thanks for taking the time to do it. And I will have to try this. I've never been able to bring Firmly Rejected to acceptance, no matter the money.

[Jong]

Well, I feel like ending my post here, but I think I should elaborate more.

After pummeling the Milanese to 2 provinces, I gave them back one of their provinces and paid tribute to make them my vassals. I then retired back to Iberia to replenish my forces and prepare for a nice crusade. What I didn't expect was to receive large piles of money every turn from my now rich vassal Spain. Previously the yearly tribute had all but evaporated. I could not spend all that money, as the income was rather erratic, and I thought it wouldn't be prudent to build a vast army.

Anyway, I'll admit I lost my stamina for this campaign, so for the Egyptians and Turks, instead of crushing them into servitude like a usually do, I put my vast fortune to some use. So, Victory! Huzzah!

Vassals: Moors, Spain, Milan, Egypt, Turkey

Destroyed Factions: France (by Rebels )

Incomplete meta-goals: New World, gunpowder, crush Mongols and Timurids (though the Mongols arrived in 1192, unfortunately or fortunately, they went off to Russia)

P.S. My current Faction Leader is like some insane god of war. He's got around 18 command stars.

[Shahed]

This is good thread Jong. Thanks for your contribution and thanks for your tips. Hang around and let us know of anything else you might discover !